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Old 20-12-2007, 04:24 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "The seamers have by and large bowled..."
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Originally Posted by Rachael View Post
The seamers have by and large bowled well...
Rachael, I sometimes wonder if we live on the same planet! If your views and opnions have been formed from watching the bowlers in action, then fair enough, that's your opinion and I disagree with it, but I rather suspect your opinion has not been formed by watching them in action because no-one could say that if they'd actually seen it with their own eyes, our bowlers have been downright poor the whole series.

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Originally Posted by Rachael View Post
Re: Panesar - he's not been hugely effective... but there's not really been much in the pitches to encourage him. Look at how easily Murali's been played this series: even Sidebottom was playing him with comparative ease. It's not been easy.
I find this quite bizarre to be perfectly honest. Panesar hasn't been effective because he's bowled the wrong length and been bowled defensively which hasn't worked. Quality spin bowlers (and everyone will tell you Panesar is a quality SLA) take their wickets on any surface just the same as seamers have to take wickets on any surface with guile, patience, persistence, variations and luck. Panesar took plenty of wickets early in his career on surfaces that did not suit his bowling, purely because he was bowling the right line and length and allowing the pitch surface to do the rest. Panesars height, bounce, speed variations and flight variations are where he's strongest, not too disimilar to Giles and it must still be amazing everyone that Giles has a much better record in the sub-continent than Panesar has, despite being technically a much better bowler!

Panesar is innefective because the other bowlers aren't doing their job and Vaughan is turning to Panesar to 'plug' up one end and slow the run rate down and that's a defensive move and not the way Panesar should be used. They're using him as a defensive option because they're a bowler short.
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