You may well be right jrwb; mind you saying someone isn't as quick as those two is a bit like saying you're not quite as good a golfer as Tiger Woods!! I've heard some people say in fact Sylvester Clarke was the quickest of the lot. While we're on the subject of underated Barbados bowlers I'd like to give a mention to Wayne "diamond" Daniel. If he had been around at any other time there is no doubt in my mind he would have 250 test wickets and I also feel if he were around now he would waltz into any test side around including Oz.