I'm not sure who you reckon is out of order on the TMS team VF.. I'd suggest it's one of the few remaining bastions of decency. You'll not get CMJ slipping into "our" instead of "England's" or "their" instead of "the Australian"... which is something that should not be beyond the basic good manners of ANY commentator.. but I would think he'd have grounds for libel if you accused him of bias with respect to the different teams.

The only guys who struggle to meet the standards CMJ sets are Blowers (when he gets excited, which given that it takes no more than a passing bus or pigion is rather too often) and Aggers (ditto, but it takes something pretty special to throw him): both seem suitably apologetic after any outburst and I can't see them causing offense.

The one thing you CAN perhaps expect from TMS is rather more insightful critique of some of the home players.. simply on the grounds that most of the comentary team have spent far longer watching and discussing players who feature regularly on the domestic scene.. but when you get to a former player like Mike Atherton you're perhaps looking at a player who knows the overseas stars better than home grown new-comers.

I've heard Shane Warne a few times of late: that's been interesting. I was pleasantly surprised to hear him fit straight into the largely dispassonate analysis one would expect from the BBC. He obviously had to be careful about what he said about current Test team-mates.. but was as frank as I thought he could be and seemed to be at least striving to be objective.

Alas.. I only listen to the pearls of wisdom dispensed by the channel 4 commentary team very occasionally as the effort of switching the sound off and back on again (or ideally the channel / TV off and on again) at each advert usually convinces me it's better to just have TMS on whilst I watch. That said.. nothing I've heard on Channel 4 has irritated as much as the few glipses I've had of Sky commentary :-)