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19-10-2004, 12:00 AM
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| Dream Team Players from time.... I'm not a historian but I wouldent mind this team. (Aussie Bias obviously) In Batting order Mathew Hayden Gorden Greenigde Don Bradmen Viv Richards Sachin Tendualker Ian Botham Gillchrist Shane Warne Dennis Lille Jeff Thompsen Glenn McGrath It's almost as good as our Aussie team now  
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| How many Bradmen is that, Beny? Even one of the buggers was tough enough!  |
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| In batting order Mathew Hayden Gorden Greenigde Don Bradman Viv Richards Sachin Tendualker Freddie Flintoff Gillchrist Shane Warne Dennis Lille Curtley Ambrose H Larwood Miles better than your Aussie team now, and just a head of England 
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| There have been so many of these compiled over recent years (and by more qualified folks than ourselves) that the crunch decisions are pretty easily identified. Richie Benaud recently did something of this sort on channel 4: he selected something like 6 openers, 6 middle order bats, 3 batting all rounders, 3 keepers, 3 bowling all rounders, 6 seamers and 3 spinners.. and they ran a competition for viewers to get his final XI from that lot. Obvious Aussie bias.. but Richie's final XI was as follows: Quote:
ps. I'm absolutely certain that Hayden didn't even make the shortlist. Same goes for Flintoff. Perhaps more surprisingly... not one, single, WI bowler made the shortlist. Sadly, there was no room (either) for Godfrey Evans (universally acclaimed as the best gloveman who ever lived) or Knotty (who gets the nod in many all time British XIs for his superior batting). Last edited by Rachael : 19-10-2004 at 09:27 AM. |
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| I'm going to follow Benaud's lead and select a dream team that is the team I'd like to see play for me.. even if it isn't the strongest possible XI.. and I'm going to stick to players I've watched. The emphasis here is on players who I think I'd love a youngster to see play together.. and who would serve well as role models for any young cricketer. 1. Mark Richardson 2. Mike Atherton 3. Gary Kirsten 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Brian Lara 6. Johnty Rhodes 7. Shaun Pollock 8. Jack Russell 9. Anil Kumble 10. Gus Fraser 11. Curtley Ambrose 12th Man: Murali.. to substitute in for Fraser where 2 spinners are preferred. A good mix of beligerence (Richardson, Atherton, Kirsten, Russell), batting technique (Atherton, Tendulkar), touch (Lara), athleticism in the field (Rhodes) and glovework (Russell).. backed up by tireless, disciplined, authentic and contrasting bowling (Pollock, Kumble, Fraser / Murali and Ambrose). Atherton's captain because the guy always deserved to captain a decent quality side and never got the opportunity. Postscript: painful ommisions to this side include Rahul Dravid and Wasim Akram... who I'd probably have in for Johnty Rhodes and Gus Fraser if i was facing a really, REALLY, top side.. but I must admit.. I'd miss Rhodes in the field (and off the field: surely the nicest bloake to ever play cricket)... and much as I admire Wasim Akram.. I'd feel saddened that I hadn't allowed Fraser to bowl with as part of an attack that actually stood a chance. Late pps: Sticking with openers I've seen I suppose that under real pressure to win I'd also have to go for Boycott and Gooch over Richardson and Atherton.. but that would have to be under REAL duress: two players I love for two players I have never really taken to would be hard to stomach Last edited by Rachael : 19-10-2004 at 10:08 PM. |
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| Richie’s Greatest XI: 1 Jack Hobbs 2 Sunil Gavaskar 3 Don Bradman (Cap) 4 Viv Richards 5 Sachin Tendulkar 6 Sir Garfield Sobers 7 Imran Kahn 8 Adam Gilchrist 9 Shane Warne 10 Dennis Lillee 11 Sydney Barnes 12th Man Keith Miller Coach; FMM Worrell No Freddie did not make the final 11, nor did a lot of other players better than the likes of Imran Khan. Richie Benaud I have respected, and loved his commentating over the years, but he has this obsession that he is of French decent, although a great player and captain, being of French decent, would mean he had no "GREAT" sence of history of the game, hence his obvious omissions. Ern
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Ern, I truly hope that the above comment was made in tongue in cheek! |
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However I do think he has made some startling omissions from another age, he could find room for Imran Khan, but not for the likes of Harold Larwood, Sir Len Hutton, Douglas Jardean or even Fred Trueman, this was the point I was making, or a recent great in Ian Botham.
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19-10-2004, 10:59 AM
in reply to Ernest's post starting "Yep most of it was tounge in cheek, lot..." | |||
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| Ernest: as I explained in my initial post... there was a group of about 30 players in the initial short list. I can't find that list online.. but rest assured that it included many great names. Hutton WAS on it.. as was Greenidge... and Larwood may well have been on it.. as might Trueman for that matter. Kapil Dev was certainly there (loosing out to Sobers) and Botham (lost out to Imran Khan). I'm pretty sure Hadlee was on the list. The three 'keepers were the last 3 Aussie 'keepers. Can't remember who else figured. My recollection is that Benaud had absolutely NO hesitation about his middle order: the likes of Peter May, Ken Barrington and Dennis Compton never really challenged. ps. RWS posts an authoritative England post war XI here Last edited by Rachael : 19-10-2004 at 11:09 AM. |
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