matt hayden

[Beny]

Originally Posted by Seamer 36793

As usual, as soon as Australia loses a game, they need a scapegoat and this time it is Hayden. Ponting and Gilchrist have not been in good form either. Should their positions be under scrutiny as well? Definately not. Like Hayden, they are class players and should be allowed the odd form slump. Clarke is playing very well at the moment but there is no doubt that he will have a form slump as well in the future. When he does, the selectors will show patience with him and Hayden deserves the same. If the selectors succumb to media pressure, i for one will not be happy
Some stats from this series:
Name Mat I NO Runs HS Ave
ML Hayden 4 4 0 42 27 10.50
RT Ponting 6 6 1 132 78 26.40
AC Gilchrist 3 3 0 53 47 17.66
Gilchrist,s 47 - he was dropped on 5. If the catch was taken his average would have been 3.66 Take away Pontings 78 and his average would be 9.8

You're being rather selective here. This is only a few matches. Hayden has not made a score since Sri-Lanka. But it is not that which worries me. Haydos' body language makes it obvious that he is struggling and is exsasperated trying to figure out how to turn that around. I have no doubt that he will but I would have suggested that we give him a stint in Domestic cricket before the end of the season. If he keeps this up how far down the whole will he go?

[redback]

Of course Hayden should have been dropped its about time the selectors got fair dinkum and dropped players that are out of form We are the best team in the world at the moment because we have 11 players playing well as a team if we go into any series or game with only 9 or 10 players in form we will soon be vulnarable against the top sides

[Paoli]

Originally Posted by Beny

You're being rather selective here. This is only a few matches. Hayden has not made a score since Sri-Lanka. But it is not that which worries me. Haydos' body language makes it obvious that he is struggling and is exsasperated trying to figure out how to turn that around. I have no doubt that he will but I would have suggested that we give him a stint in Domestic cricket before the end of the season. If he keeps this up how far down the whole will he go?

Exactly my point. Greatly stated there Beny. Haydos needs to go back and play a couple of ING Cup matches for Queensland, and sort himself out. He looked uncomfortable against the medium pace of Razzaq and Rao, and Shoaib showed who was boss in the test series.

As for the tests, Matty has struggled since Sri Lanka as well. If he has a bad series in New Zealand, you never know. He will go to the Ashes, but whether he will he be in the starting XI is up to the jury.

[bevo]

not even a huge form slump will get hayden out of the ashes , he will play and open , plus who else will they pick thats as good as hayden , excactly , ing / pura cup matches matches i dont think so , why would hayden do that , he may aswell take 60 balls to get on 25 thats all it takes , hayden will kill the poms , man of the series , thats right.

[Beny]

http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/C...04FEB2005.html

[Zainub]

That's not too humble of Harbajjan or is that?

I personally think Hayden him self has contributed to his lack of form more than anything , he's been over confident (call it complecency if you want in other words) and tried and hit good balls for four...that's why so many caght playing sweep dismissals against Harbajjan and later caught in gully and bolwed/lbw vs Akhtar ...ok, those are two very good bowlers he was up against, but I think his strategy of trying to hit him self out of form was incorrect, he should have rather tried to bat him self into some form. He was trying too many things, when he simply should have tried to get some time in the middle and stick to the basics. Easier said then doen though, so you might as well call me harsh if you want to

Anyhow, he's come out and said he'll do what ever it takes to get back in the side, that's a big statement, so one might as well expect him to be back.

[Beny]

http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_data...07FEB2005.html

Queensland will finalise their squad after Australia's touring party is announced on Wednesday, but expect to miss the injured trio of Andrew Symonds (Achilles tendon), Shane Watson (side strain) and Martin Love (hand). Symonds was hurt while making 91 in the first final against Pakistan, Watson left the field after bowling 3.5 overs in the second match last night and Love split the webbing between his left index finger and thumb while fielding during yesterday's 138-run loss to Victoria.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by Beny

If he keeps this up how far down the whole will he go?

Probably as far as Martyn and S Waugh did. Like Hayden, they are class players, bounced back, and rubbed their critics faces in it. There is only one more game in the Pura cup left and you think that will be enough to get his spot back. What the hell is Lehman doing there then? His record is worse. And what is Simon "rabbit in the headlights" Katitch doing in the team more to the point. Even out of form, Hayden would have outdone Clarke,s 9 and ponderous 36 off 72 balls effort in the finals. Clarke should have batted 5 or 6 at the expense of Katitch and Hayden should have opened as the captain and coach requested.

[bevo]

hayden is in the australian squad for the new zealand series and is one of the first players ( even though their are plenty of them) to get the nod for the ashes , lets hope for his sake he gets a couple of 200 plus partner ships with justin langer or some centuries and he will not be over looked in the future even in poor form , i dont even think that they were considering to leave him out of the new zealand tour , no one is as good as an opener as hayden is in test cricket today , one day circket is all about adam gilchrist so if he gets some 50's or a century in new zealand that will get his career back on the road , but who says a 30 odd average isnt bad anyways , only for hayden

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by Beny

You're being rather selective here. This is only a few matches. Hayden has not made a score since Sri-Lanka. But it is not that which worries me. Haydos' body language makes it obvious that he is struggling and is exsasperated trying to figure out how to turn that around. I have no doubt that he will but I would have suggested that we give him a stint in Domestic cricket before the end of the season. If he keeps this up how far down the whole will he go?

Your answer - 1st ODI Aus vs NZ - Hayden top scores with a beautifully compiled 71. Clarke a duck. I have said two things in regard to Hayden (1) Class is permament (2) He will make his critics eat their words.
Forgive me if i constantly revive this thread over the NZ/ENG tours