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View Poll Results: Who's going to give Australia the most problems in the Ashes
Butcher 1 6.25%
Flintoff 6 37.50%
Giles 0 0%
Harmison 2 12.50%
Strauss 3 18.75%
Trescothwick 1 6.25%
Vaughn 2 12.50%
Other 1 6.25%
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Old 01-04-2005, 03:15 PM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Beny do you mean that England attack..."
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Its gonna be Andrew Flintoff. He can do it with both bat and ball
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Old 01-04-2005, 03:53 PM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Beny do you mean that England attack..."
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with only half a bowling attack, beat SA in their own back yard.
come on Beny "unprofessional" noooo way.
Helped by some inept batting by SA. It took Gibbs a few Tests to remember where his off stump was. All Hoggard had to do was bowl on off stump for a few delivers and the wicket was his.
So are England going to turn up with their full bowling attack? Or will they give the Aussies a chance and play with half an attack?
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:48 PM in reply to John's post starting "Helped by some inept batting by SA. It..."
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Harmison will have 2x4 day matches for Durham + the Tests vs Bangladesh to get some form together, Simon Jones will be fully fit, Flintoff is well on the way, Hoggard is playing at home and in English conditions.

Beyond that England have several more very good prospects waiting in the wings. Mahmood, Anderson and Harrison would be the current possibles based on performance in the A team matches and the fact that Anderson has been the backup bowler on tour.
Mahmood I would specifically regard as a very good prospect.
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:05 PM in reply to cantplaycantalk's post starting "Harmison will have 2x4 day matches for..."
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Yes I agree it would be quiet a handful if they were all fit and more importantly on form. It would give even the Aussies trouble. But thats the big if : if they are all fit and on form. There are no margins for error all of the England bowlers must turn up 100%. Any of the bowlers 70% and the Australians will have their foot in the door.
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:39 PM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Beny do you mean that England attack..."
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Beny do you mean that England attack that ripped though the Windies home and away, then New zealand.
then with only half a bowling attack, beat SA in their own back yard.
come on Beny "unprofessional" noooo way.
Harmison got smashed to the point where he needed to go home early.
Pig Farmer had a decent series.... He bowled as well as anybody would expect, I think he ended up with an average of about 25.
You couldent figure out who you're third specilist seamer was.
Flintoff was forced to carry far too much of the bowling load for an allrounder. Even then he was in the same boat as Hoggard.
Giles was boaring and negative as usual.

And the first two series dont count for reasons I've already mentioned. These guys go on and off like a switch.
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Old 02-04-2005, 12:15 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "Harmison got smashed to the point where..."
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Harmison got smashed to the point where he needed to go home early.
So one bowler did not fire.
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Pig Farmer had a decent series.... He bowled as well as anybody would expect, I think he ended up with an average of about 25.
Very professional I thought, with Harmison indisposed.
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You couldent figure out who you're third specilist seamer was.
Flintoff is a first change bowler, so I guess that answers you question, very professional under the circumstances.
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Flintoff was forced to carry far too much of the bowling load for an allrounder. Even then he was in the same boat as Hoggard.
I agree they both bowled well and were very professional.
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Giles was boaring and negative as usual.
He did a good job, all considering, limited but professional.

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And the first two series dont count for reasons I've already mentioned. These guys go on and off like a switch.
No Beny England turned them off 11 times, there was no on .
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Old 02-04-2005, 05:45 AM in reply to Ernest's post starting "So one bowler did not fire. Very..."
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So one bowler did not fire.
Understatment of the week....

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Very professional I thought, with Harmison indisposed.
He was half decent I said.... It's not as if he picked up the slack or anything. He just did what he needed to.

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I agree they both bowled well and were very professional.
Ern, Flintoff is not a specialist Bowler but because the others were not proforming as they should have, Vaughn was forced to overuse him, probebly contributing to his injury and damaging his batting. Flintoff did an ok job but the bowling unit was unprofessinal because they brought it to that point.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:29 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "Understatment of the week.... He..."
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Harmison has only just started playing one day matches for Durham, he hasn't yet got his act together in the ODI's really, he had a poor Test series an injury to his calf and had just had enough.
In the Tests he was let down badly by some inept fielding, roughly half a dozen "dolly" catches got droped off his bowling and yep he had a bad tour, of course had those catches stuck he would have finished with 14ish wickets at 35ish which would have been a fairer estimation of his form, and that assumes that taking a few extra wickets had no positive effects on his form.
All in all he was having a poor tour and it must have felt like everything was conspiring against him, expect him to come back at the start of this season, a bit fired up, I do.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:36 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "Understatment of the week.... He..."
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BTW Flintoff's figures and the speed gun would suggest he is both a specialist bowler and a specialist batsman, so now he has that long standing ankle injury sorted, you can expect him to bowl 15 overs a day along with Hoggy, Harmison and Jones the bowler.
Just look on Freddy as a new improved version of Beefy Botham, and Harmison as a quicker version of Bob Willis

You do remember those two don't you?

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Old 03-04-2005, 07:16 AM in reply to cantplaycantalk's post starting "BTW Flintoff's figures and the speed..."
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