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Old 19-03-2005, 10:06 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "He played the 1sr, 3rd and 4th Tests. ..."
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Its more than fair to say that in that particular series Bracken out bowled Lee, even Brad Williams bowled better in that series than Brett Lee. Lee was just plain rubbish, he kept bowling either too full, or too short, there was no in between length. Just had a shocker. But we might argue he wasn't fully fit.
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Old 20-03-2005, 04:02 AM in reply to Zainub's post starting "Its more than fair to say that in that..."
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Lee is always going to play in the ODI team, as a matter of fact, a 31 year old Lee will lead the 37 year old McGrath and the 32 year old Gillespie, alongside the 36 year old Kasprowicz and a 35 year old Hogg into World Cup 2007.

Watching an interview on Channel 7's Sportsworld this morning, it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. Brett expressed his disappointment but was positive and knew that if he kept bowling the way he was he'd eventually get a shot.
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Old 21-03-2005, 10:58 AM in reply to Paoli's post starting "Lee is always going to play in the ODI..."
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Brett Lee is still a more potent and effective test match force than current 4th choice Kasper
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Old 21-03-2005, 11:15 AM in reply to acker's post starting "Brett Lee is still a more potent and..."
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That's a bit much Aker, I'm a lee fan too but at the momment Kaspa has earnt his spot with better returns than Lee ever got. Especialy coming up to the Ashes which will be played on swinging wickets, suiting Kaspa.
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Old 21-03-2005, 11:25 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "That's a bit much Aker, I'm a lee fan..."
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I'm niether a Lee fan not a Lee hater, but I agree with you all the same Beny. Casper's thoroughly deserved the run in the side he's got. He's world class. Given how he's been doing in NZ (three wickets in NZ's first innings again) he will also deserve a place in the Ashes squad.

We must also consider the fact that Lee's previous record against England does not make the best of viewing.
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Old 21-03-2005, 11:26 AM in reply to acker's post starting "Brett Lee is still a more potent and..."
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Brett Lee is still a more potent and effective test match force than current 4th choice Kasper
If anyone is to be replaced by Lee, it will be Dizzy. Firsly, Kaspa has outbowled Dizzy not only in the current series but in the last 12 months. Secondly, while Kaspa is a specialist change bowler, Lee and Dizzy are both openers. Dizzy is a far superior bowler to Lee, so Lee will just have to hope for loss of form or injury. Acker, i think your personal dislike of Kaspa is clouding your objectivity and reason somewhat
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Old 21-03-2005, 11:44 AM in reply to Seamer's post starting "If anyone is to be replaced by Lee, it..."
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If anyone is to be replaced by Lee, it will be Dizzy. Firsly, Kaspa has outbowled Dizzy not only in the current series but in the last 12 months. Secondly, while Kaspa is a specialist change bowler, Lee and Dizzy are both openers. Dizzy is a far superior bowler to Lee, so Lee will just have to hope for loss of form or injury. Acker, i think your personal dislike of Kaspa is clouding your objectivity and reason somewhat
Kasper loved by you , Laxman & Dravid (in the follow on 2001 Calcutta) and that Kiwi bloke who smacked 24 runs off him in the ODI last over at colonial stadium.
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Old 21-03-2005, 12:09 PM in reply to acker's post starting "Kasper loved by you , Laxman &..."
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Kasper loved by you , Laxman & Dravid (in the follow on 2001 Calcutta) and that Kiwi bloke who smacked 24 runs off him in the ODI last over at colonial stadium.
Well i would hardly classify Lee as an economical bowler ( Just ask the poms) and has been plastered by many a team over the years in both test and ODI's. So be it, that is the nature of ODI's. As to Calcutta in 2001, EVERYONE got hammered by Laxman/Dravid. But that was 4 years ago. Seems strange that you have convieniently forgotten his brilliant performance in India against the same guys less than a year ago. Fact is, Lee is a fast bowler that is good for the first 10 overs of a new ball. Kaspa is good for the remaining 70 of that ball. One-dimentional bowling of pace and nothing else just does'nt cut it against the best batsmen which is why Tendulkar rated Kaspa as the most difficult of the Aussie bowlers to play in his opinion. Very few rate Lee and until he develops some guile and variation, will remain so.
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Old 21-03-2005, 12:14 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "Well i would hardly classify Lee as an..."
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Fact is, Lee is a fast bowler that is good for the first 10 overs of a new ball. Kaspa is good for the remaining 70 of that ball.
I like the way you make this point, sounds very convinving. I tend to agree with you.
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Old 29-03-2005, 05:51 AM in reply to Milo's post "NSW didn't need Lee"
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Well, it was clear that New South Wales didn't need Big Brett to fly in to the rescue and make a mess of their push for the Pura Cup. Bracken did the business, just as he has all season. This guy has bowled really well this year (including one amazing spell of 7-4) and I feel should get a trip to England this summer. If called into play, he could be the hidden weapon that will rattle England's cage. I remember Reiffel showing up when McDermott went home in 93. Could Bracken be the one to come through now for the Aussies? or will they simply pick the vastly over-rated run machine Brett Lee if injury occurs?
That 7/4 was against my home state South Australia, and you cant judge a fellows figures when you come up against the likes of those led by Graham Manou for petes sake. I could bowl Manou out.
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