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| View Poll Results: Is Adam Gilchrist the most valuable player in world cricket? | |||
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| Is Adam Gilchrist the most valuable player in world cricket? I think so! The best WK batsmen in the world. If not ever. He's saved Australia so many times its not funny. http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/NATIONAL/AUS/
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You've got batting coming out of your ears.. so supply is outstripping demand. SAme to a lesser extent in spin bowling. Not sure in seam bowling though: I'd say McGrath's the one who is toughest to replace.. hence greatest value. |
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| I'm sorry, but I just feel it's not as simple as 'Most Valuable Player in the World'. As cricket is a such a complex game, with different needs at different times of a 5 day match, I'd suggest that he would only be MVPW if he took his pads of when the wicket had flattened out and bowled left arm wrist-spin to devastating effect. Some would argue that a player would need to be a genuine batter & bowler to become MVPW But then again, someone has stolen my Catnip Squeaky Mouse this morning, so I am in a pedantic mood!
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| Murali is the MVP, without him Sri Lanka are a shadow of the side. Kallis is a better batsman, and a decent bowler to boot, As a WK batsman, he has no equal at present, probably ever, but he isn't the most valuable player in the world. |
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| This is probably the best bowling analysis article I've come across and shows how good Murali is but as good as Murali and McGrath are I think I'd pick Dravid in my side first. He is so consistent. Sehwag also rates highly because he can get a team off to a flyer with his high strike-rate. I read that he has the second-best 1st innings average in history after the Don. Gilchrist, Ponting and Lara are still automatic choices, I think. 1st innings averages: 57.74 Gilchrist 62.39 Dravid 62.62 Lara 63.25 Tendulkar 63.37 Ponting 71.30 Sehwag 97.85 Bradman Last edited by Mike : 27-03-2005 at 11:09 PM. |
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| This "most valuable player" thing is a bit odd, really: for the Aussies.. Gilchrist is replaceable, dispensible. He's got no equal elsewhere in the world.. but even so... South Africa are in more desperate need of middle order batsmen (Boucher and DeVilliers both seem oK as glovemen)... Pakistan are in more desperate need of an opening bat... England would much rather sign Warne or Murali... NZ would much rather sign McGrath or Pollock... and so on. If you considered "who would be the most irreplaceable player for a world XI" then I guess that's a bit different. Consider: Code: Langer Smith / Fleming Sehwag Hayden / Strauss Dravid / Ponting Lara / Tendulkar Kallis / Martyn / Inzi Gilchrist Sangakkara / Boucher Pollock Vaas, Kasprowicz Warne / Muralitharan McGrath ? Gillespie Akhtar? Harmison? Akhtar? Suspect attitude. Harmison? Suspect temperament. Kasprowicz? Maybe. The rest? The promising ones just haven't proven themselves enough yet.. and those that have proven themselves have mostly proven to be limited. It's not like a few years ago when you could have replaced Wasim, Waqar and Curtley with Donald, McGrath and Pollock and still left Walsh, Gough and Srinath in the wings! |
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| I can't believe you've omitted Flintoff from your list, Rachael, as I think he would leave a huge gap in England's middle-order. I think the most valuable players in the world are (one selection from each major Test country): Flintoff - ENG Dravid - IND McGrath - AUST Muralitheran - SL Kallis - SA Inzamam - PAK Vettori - NZ Lara - WI From that list, Kallis is probably the most difficult to replace because he is also a good change bowler. You can't replace him directly with Martyn or Inzi who are just batsmen without seriously effecting the team balance. Flintoff is another who would be difficult to replace because of his bowling. McGrath could be replaced by Pollock, Murali by Warne. Dravid by Ponting. Inzamam by Tendulkar. Vettori by Warne. Lara by Tendulkar. Last edited by Mike : 27-03-2005 at 11:40 PM. |
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