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Old 12-11-2006, 09:59 PM
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Aus Ashes team: Brisbane Test

With our yougsters playing so well at the momment there appears to be a selection dilema.

Shaun Tait and Mitchel Johnson are tearing teams apart. Johnson captured Martyn and Hussey in a Domestic match yesterday, capturing 4 wickets all up at an economy rate of 2.4.

Phil Jaques has just belted two tons in 78 hours against the poms.

And then ofcourse there is the Watson/Clarke issue and a back in form Damian Martyn.

So who would you pick.

My 1XI

Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Jaques
Clarke
Hussey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Johnson
McGrath
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:18 PM in reply to Beny's post "Aus Ashes team: Brisbane Test"
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To be honest, I think the Aussies will probably win, and win more convincingly, if they give some of their 'youngsters' a go. I think it might be time for some of the aged legs to be given a permanent rest from the test side. It may sound ruthless, but that's how the Aussie selectors have been in the past.

If I was an Aussie, I'd like to see the following side:

Jaques, Hayden, Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, White/Watson, Gilchrist, Warne, Johnson, McGrath, Tait/MacGill

However, given Buchanan's recent conservatism, I think the following side is more likely:

Langer, Hayden, Ponting, Martyn, Clarke, Hussey, Gilchrist, Warne, Lee, Clark, McGrath

I really think Clark should be dumped in favour of Johnson or Tait, and frankly, although Lee can take wickets, he haemorrages runs like there's no tomorrow. Give Johnson a chance to take his place. Martyn - well, it would be easier to dump him if he hadn't been in such blistering form in the ICCCT, but I'd be tempted to play him as an ODI specialist and give a youngster like White the chance to make a name for himself. Jaques - well, he's just a great player who deserves his chance, and his two centuries against the England bowling line up SHOULD give him the nod ahead of Langer. MacGill comes in for Tait on spinning wickets in my team

Players who should be ignored: Gillespie, Kasprowicz, Katich, Clark, Hodge
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:48 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "To be honest, I think the Aussies will..."
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Lee is as acurate as anybody these days... He bowled fantasticly against England when he was used as he should have been. Personaly I'd leave McGrath out before Lee. In anycase, Tait leaks a lot more runs than Lee does.

As for White- the guy's bowling is not up to scratch yet... I'd take Dan Cullen before I took White.
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Old 13-11-2006, 12:02 AM in reply to Beny's post "Aus Ashes team: Brisbane Test"
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With our yougsters playing so well at the momment there appears to be a selection dilema.
LOL swap - Aussie have to play Phil Jaques, his confidence must be sky high.

Also I think you have missed a trick not picking Tait - he has experience playing against England.

Don't be fooled by these warm up games - I still have England as slight favorites despite good shows by Aussie teams in the warm ups, and that's despite the inclusion of Jones .
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Old 13-11-2006, 12:04 AM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "To be honest, I think the Aussies will..."
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Well Jaques is a good player but you can't really drop Langer he is a great player with one of the best test records for an opening batsman in the history of the game. Martyn is another great player who was the scape goat in 2005 even though he was given shocking decisions from the umpires, Johnson should and will go in ahead of Clark. Watson will go in the side as the allrounder.

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Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Martyn (if he fails in both innings in the first test switch with Jaques or Clarke
Hussey
Watson
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Johnson/MacGill (depending on pitch conditions)
McGrath

My English XI

Trescothick
Strauss
Cook
Pietersen
Flintoff
Bell
Jones/Read (couldnt care less they are both no good)
Giles (just as good. Giles was a huge reason they won last time, also is handy with the bat and in the field.)
Hoggard
Harmison/Mahmood (both not worthy, but it will be Harmison
Anderson (I like Anderson)
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Old 13-11-2006, 12:38 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "Lee is as acurate as anybody these..."
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As for White- the guy's bowling is not up to scratch yet... I'd take Dan Cullen before I took White.
I've put White in at number 6 though, Cullen could never be a number six! In fact, Cullen has looked pretty poor in the internationals that he played so far, White has never really been given a proper go.

My reason for selecting White is that he looked bloody good at Somerset this year with the bat, the fact he brings some decent leg spin to the arena is another plus. He's a better bat than Watson IMO. I realise that that's just pie in the sky though, but I think he'd do well against England.

Secondly, Tait vs Lee is a very interesting debate. Both players prove to be quite expensive at times, but from what I've seen, Tait bowls more of the unplayable, wicket taking balls than Lee. Lee often seems to force errors of judgement from batsmen and to my mind makes it look more as if the batsman has got himself out. Some of the balls that Tait bowled (especially to dismiss Trescothick) would have got any batsman out; no matter how well set.

Lee will retain his place on reputation. In fact, he'll do better than in England - I wouldn't bet against 20-odd wickets at 32-35 for Lee. I guess though that Lee does provide pretty solid batting as well.

On the batsman subject, it is true that Martyn looked fairly comfortable in the last Ashes and suffered more than anyone from unlucky Lbws. However, luck does have this tendancy to follow you around and I wonder how many poor decision he might suffer from this series. As for Langer, great though he may be/have been, everyone's day in the sun comes to an end sometime, else we'd still be seeing Len Hutton play The Don in this series. Just my opinion, but Langer holding on for dear life is preventing the new blood - Jaques - having a decent extended run in the team, which is what is needed to make sure he's a fixture for years to come.

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Old 13-11-2006, 07:24 AM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "I've put White in at number 6 though,..."
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Good to see Lee getting thrashed all over the place in the match against England.I guess we aren't the only ones with wayward bowlers then.

As for the team Beny picked,no chance.Martyn will play instead of Jaques and Johnson probably won't play either.It is far harder to get into the Aussie side than it is to get out of it these days.Dad's Army will all play in Brisbane.

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Old 13-11-2006, 08:09 AM in reply to greg's post starting "Good to see Lee getting thrashed all..."
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Tresco doesnt think Lee can be carted around :P

I do think Jaques will play,instead of Martyn however i dont think Shawn Tait will take a place in the side yet.

Let see...
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Old 13-11-2006, 08:26 AM in reply to Mr Hutt's post starting "Tresco doesnt think Lee can be carted..."
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Jaques should be given a chance - however key was carting the West Indies bowlers for his county, but failed in his recall to the team.


Test cricket is a lot different wo warm ups.
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Old 13-11-2006, 09:21 AM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Jaques should be given a chance -..."
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Jaques should be given a chance - however key was carting the West Indies bowlers for his county, but failed in his recall to the team.
The big choices for the Aussie are

1. Make a place for Jaques or keep the existing opening pair
2. Find a place for Johnson or Tait, or utilise MacGill or Clark
3. Bring in Watson as a fith bowler

My Thoughts are they will play safe and I will expect Langer and Hayden to open and Clark/MacGill selected over the young bucks. If they do include Watson, my bet on England to win the Ashes will become a very profitable venture!!

Personally my team would be

Jaques
Hayden
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
White
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
McGrath
Johnson

But I doubt that this will be the team

I expect

Langer to keep his place over Jaques
Martyn to replave Clarke
Watson to replace White
Clark/MacGill to replace Johnson

and I think if this happend England will win the Ashes...
 


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