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Old 27-02-2008, 09:41 AM
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Brad Hogg retires from international cricket

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Australian spinner Brad Hogg today announced his retirement from international cricket.
The 37-year-old played seven tests for Australia, including three this summer against India.
But he was far more successful in the one-day arena, where he has played 121 one-day 
internationals, taking 154 wickets.
Hogg will conclude his international career after the current tri-series against India and Sri 
Lanka but has left open the option of playing domestically for Western Australia again next 
season.
Hogg said he had considered ending his career after Australia's World Cup triumph in the 
Caribbean last year, but felt that Shane Warne's retirement gave him a chance to get back 
in the test side following a long absence.
"My career started against India and I thought if I can play test cricket against India that 
would be fantastic," Hogg said.
"I wanted to fight to get back in there and I did it and I achieved what I wanted to achieve."
Hogg said another factor in his decision was that his wife was due to give birth in May.
Yet another Australian player has retired, whose his successor? How many more experienced
players can the side lose or is there just that much talent in the country that they'll stay on top?
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Old 27-02-2008, 10:11 AM in reply to sittingduck's post "Brad Hogg retires from international..."
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Yet another Australian player has retired, whose his successor?
Well, in the one-day format, and I know I've been singing his praises for a while and everyone's probably sick of it, and being from the same state I'm biased and all that, but I believe that a good alternative for ODIs would be Western Australia's Aaron Heal. His Pura Cup form's been average, granted, but he's had a very good season in the ING Cup, taking 7 wickets from 5 matches. He's always been economical, going at 4.2 this season, and he always gives it plenty of flight. I remember one match against Victoria, where his first four overs went for 27. He was brought back in the last fifteen, and bowling normally, his last six overs went for 14 runs. So I think he may have the temperament to survive in the limited-overs form. He also went very well in the 2020 Big Bash, taking nine wickets from six matches at an ER or 6.7.

Saying that, I'm sure that Cameron White will get the slot, due to his superior batting ability.

In Test cricket, I don't know. If MacGill isn't fit for Pakistan and the West Indies, then I don't think they have any choice but to go for Bryce McGain, and he's hardly a long-term solution.

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Old 27-02-2008, 10:44 AM in reply to Aurelius's post starting "Well, in the one-day format, and I know..."
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Saying that, I'm sure that Cameron White will get the slot, due to his superior batting ability.
Just read that Hogg tipped Hauritz and Cullen to replace him. Of those two, I think that Hauritz would be the better choice- although Cullen's had the better season, I feel that he's too expensive for a finger spinner, and Hauritz has performed well for a number of years.

So yeah, Heal or Hauritz for me.
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Old 27-02-2008, 02:17 PM in reply to Aurelius's post starting "Just read that Hogg tipped Hauritz and..."
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Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupboard,
To fetch her poor dog a bone.
But when she got there,
The cupboard was bare,
And so the poor dog had none.


With MacGill on the sick list, and the unfit list... it does leave the spin options looking very weak indeed, I really can't see how this team can hope to compete in the sub-continent with Cullen or Hauritz as the number one spinner?

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Old 27-02-2008, 05:34 PM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "Old Mother Hubbard Went to the..."
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Seamer will be gutted.

No surprise as he is old and not as good as he was and wasn't anywhere near good enough to be a test bowler anyway.
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Old 28-02-2008, 11:02 AM in reply to greg's post starting "Seamer will be gutted. No surprise as..."
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Seamer will be gutted.
Yes i am disappointed. I would have liked to have seen him up against S.A or Eng - i reckon he would have run through them - but now we will never know.

Judging him on his performance against India this summer, considering the wickets and quality of batsmen, was unrealistic. Look at the stats of Harbhijan, Muralitheran and to a lesser extent Kumble and it just showed what a trying pace Australia is to bowl spin.

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With MacGill on the sick list, and the unfit list... it does leave the spin options looking very weak indeed, I really can't see how this team can hope to compete in the sub-continent with Cullen or Hauritz as the number one spinner?
Flanflinger. You have emerged from the wilderness. You have been predicting Australia's demise for a long time, yet they still keep on winning, and you keep on retreating back into the wilderness.

Someday mate, Someday.................

P.S Clark and Symonds are superior options to "Monty", so at least we will still have the wood on you guys.
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yet they still keep on winning, and you keep on retreating back into the wilderness.
Sorry been away from the site due to lack of Internet access!! Nothing more or less sinister than that... but am back now, to continue to predict that Australia's dominance is coming to an end...


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P.S Clark and Symonds are superior options to "Monty", so at least we will still have the wood on you guys.
With the bat maybe... but with the ball?

Guess who time:-

Player A 19 games 22 wickets at 34.81 (no 4 wicket hauls let alone 5)
Player B 23 game 81 wickets at 32.76 (6 x 5w hauls and 1 x 10w)
Player C 33 game 12 wickets at 22 (1 x 5w haul)

The average may not be the best, however England have a vastly superior spin option to Australia at the present... the fact that we have Swann as no 2, and Rashid waiting in the wings, means that we probably have a much greater strength in depth as well..
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:15 AM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "Sorry been away from the site due to..."
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The highlights of Hogg's career would have to be the 2 world cups he played in & won. He also contributed a fair amount in those campaigns. A good soldier in a champion team.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:33 AM in reply to Warne's post starting "The highlights of Hogg's career would..."
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Ha! I remember when Warne was suspended, and people started wondering whether we could win without him. Last year, such was the concern at our lack of spin options that there was talk of luring Warne out of retirement to take part. But Hogg proved his detractors wrong both times. An excellent limited-overs bowler (one of the most successful ODI spinners ever), and a handy tail-end batsman.

He may not make Australia's Greatest ODI XI, but the Second XI attack of Gillespie, Fleming, Bracken and Hoggy would do very nicely.
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Brad Hogg did an excellent job in the Aussie One Day Team, he bowled very well in both of the World Cup wins that he played in.

He wasn't as good as Shane Warne I'll agree to that but then no one was so why compare them, Brad Hogg played in two winning World Cup Finals and had it not been for his 79 with the bat in the 2nd Test against India Australia would have lost the series.

Cameron White should replace Brad Hogg and this could well have a very positive effect on the Aussies future as the power team in the One Day arena, as he is a big hitter of the ball with the bat and the Aussies desperately need him to fire in both of his duties if a 4th World Cup in a row is going to be won in three years from now.
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