Will Ponting beat Waugh's consecutive test wins record

[bl8ke]

Originally Posted by EllN

I have to say ponting, if he achevies it will also be able to say, "We can still win with out the Warnes and Mcgraths" because he will be the first captain to really achived anything (if it is done and this is only to an extent) without mcgrath and warne since allan border which is quiet a feat. Though i do have to say that teams such as west indies and newzeland,and india and pakistan have declined since ponting took over, where as Waugh was still pitting hs wits against curtly and courtney, waqar and wasim and Lara's ad tendulakars when they were in there prime. So even though i do think poniting will achive it, i thinkwaugh was a better captian

I couldn't agree more. Theres not as much competition as their used to be. One thing to note is that theres a lot more games to played than what Waugh had to put up with. The pressure always takes its toll on a individual and team, so u ought to give it to Ponting as well.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by south beds mikey

Is there a match at Adelaide? This could be a decisive factor as it is still very flat.

Adelaide will not come into it SBM. We play India first at Melbourne, which should favour the Aussies going by the way the MCG wicket had played this year. Next is Sydney - that will be India's best chance and particularly if they win the toss and bat first. Then comes the WACA. I don't think they are even accepting bets on the Aussies for that one. If Ponting wins at the SCG and the MCG, i reckon the record will be his.

[south beds mikey]

I think they will definately win in Melbourne (assuming the weathers OK) and the WACA so I make you right on the record unless as you say the Indians get stuck in if they bat first in Sydney.

Needless to say I will be applying to Nostro for honourary Indian status for the duration of the series

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by south beds mikey

Needless to say I will be applying to Nostro for honourary Indian status for the duration of the series

Aussies are used to having no outside support SBS. Yet, i must say that i always support England or NZ unless they are playing Aus or the WI. Probably due to history, cultural ties and the fact that we are the foundation members of the great game.

A weak struggling NZ or England is never something i like to see. The fact that England and NZ are such terrible winners makes that hard sometimes though.

[south beds mikey]

Originally Posted by Seamer

The fact that England and NZ are such terrible winners makes that hard sometimes though.

You can't blame us for that Seam; we have had so little practise lately!!!

[Warne]

True, so little practice of winning!

The Kiwi test team is not even worthy of discussion, some bits & pieces players who sometimes upset the applecart in one-dayers, absolutely forgettable when it comes to the real deal.

[sittingduck]

Originally Posted by Warne

The Kiwi test team is not even worthy of discussion, some bits & pieces players who sometimes upset the applecart in one-dayers, absolutely forgettable when it comes to the real deal.

So being ranked third in the world and consistently makign the semis at the world cup is upsetting the apple cart sometimes? Interesting.

As for the players, yes most aren't up to the standard of the aussies but I'd take Vettori over any current aussie spinner anyday and Bond over almost all of your pace bowlers.

It's hard to develop a winning test match culture when the administration is determined to give you as little test match cricket as possible instead focusing on the cash cow that is one day cricket/2020.

[acker]

Originally Posted by sittingduck

As for the players, yes most aren't up to the standard of the aussies but I'd take Vettori over any current aussie spinner anyday

I agree totally with you with that statement

Originally Posted by sittingduck

and Bond over almost all of your pace bowlers.

And totally disagree with you with that statement

[QUOTE]Yes, Ponting will break the record acker, EllN, redback, south beds mikey, Warne
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A few of our reputations riding on the WACA result.

[south beds mikey]

Fortunately the ship has long since sailed on my reputation!!

How do the oz posters compare the merits of Waugh and Pontings side? Also I heard a stat that out of these 16 wins about 80% were at home. That can't be right can it? If so the ECB should take a leaf out of the oz boards scheduling book.

[acker]

I would have to give it to Ponting, Gilly captained one of the 16 winning tests (#13) in the Steve Waugh sequence. Plus I think Ponting's teams have had higher caliber opponents.

Players in Ricky Ponting's winning run of 16 tests (26th December 2005 to 6th January 2008)

11 wins in Australia 5 wins away

2 wins v S.Africa (in Australia) 3 wins v S.Africa (in S.Africa) 2 wins v Bangladesh (in Bangladesh) 5 wins v England (in Australia) 2 wins v Sri Lanka (in Australia) 2 wins v India (in Australia)

Ponting (16 matches) Hayden (16), Hussey (16), Gilchrist (16), Lee (16) Clark (13), Symonds (12), Warne (12), Clarke (11), Langer (9), McGrath (7), Jaques (6), Martyn (6), MacGill (6), Kasprowicz (3), Johnson (4), Hogg (2), Hodge (2), Gillespie (2), Cullen (1).

Steve Waugh's winning run captaining 15 of 16 tests (17th October 1999 to 1st March 2001)
* Adam Gilchrist captained 1 of 16 tests (20th December 2000 3rd Test v West Indies at Adelaide) test win number #13 in the sequence.

11 wins in Australia 5 wins away

1 win v Zimbabwe (in Zimbabwe) 3 wins v Pakistan (in Australia) 3 wins v India (in Australia) 3 wins v New Zealand (in New Zealand) 5 wins v West Indies (in Australia) 1 win v India (in India)

McGrath (16 matches), Slater (16), Langer (16), Mark Waugh (16), Steve Waugh (15), Gilchrist (15), Ponting (13), Warne (11), Blewett (9), Flemming (8), Miller (7), Lee (7), Hayden (7), MacGill (4), Gillespie (4), Martyn (3), Muller (2), Kasprowicz (2), Healy (1)