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Old 10-03-2008, 03:03 PM in reply to acker's post starting "Geez It was not intimidatory bowling..."
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I just hope Lee is still bowling around 150 kph and Johnson likewise in the middle of next year, because as I mentioned earlier in this post I dont think Peitersen likes the real quick short stuff and we have two very fast bowlers that can hit him from both ends..
I think you've got it wrong Acker

We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I think you might be getting your cause and effects mixed up.

Is Pietersen afraid of pace and short pitched bowling as you appear to suggest or is it simply because that style of bowling interferes with the way HE wants to play and what makes him so successful?

Sides have worked out fairly quickly that Pietersens foundation stone in batting is his big front foot stride, everything he does is triggered off that movement and therefore it didn't take too much to figure out that to disrupt his batting rhythm and balance at the crease bowling bouncers at him to push him back off that front foot was the answer.

Is it any surprise therefore that he doesn't like it? It's stopping him from batting in the way he wants to bat and because he gets onto that front foot almost unconciously having bouncers coming at him in that position would be somewhat disconcerting.

It's perfectly true, that this tactic to counter Pietersen is working fairly successfully as his batting returns have diminished since sides started to do it - but that still does't mean that he fears fast bowling or bouncers - it just means he has to adjust his game and technique to counter them - and that's something he is yet to do.

Pietersen has arrived at this point in his International career with some pretty decent batting returns behind him and just like Strauss had a very good introduction to International Cricket and also like Strauss sides have worked out how to bowl at him and also like Strauss he now needs to go away and come up with a solution.

So as you can see, I don't buy into your view that he's scared of fast bowling or short pitched bowling - but he does need to come up with a solution of how to deal with it and hooking and pulling short balls isn't a very reliable long term solution.

He's smart enough to work it out though.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:19 PM in reply to acker's post starting "Please dont kick us to hard..."
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R.Crowe : W. Woodfull
H.Vallance : Mrs W. Woodfull

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Do you know when it will be released Acks?

Stop press: Keira Knightly has been signed. She's going to play a stump!!
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:17 AM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "I think you've got it wrong Acker..."
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I think you've got it wrong Acker

We're all entitled to our opinions of course but I think you might be getting your cause and effects mixed up.

Is Pietersen afraid of pace and short pitched bowling as you appear to suggest or is it simply because that style of bowling interferes with the way HE wants to play and what makes him so successful?

SUCCESSFULL??????????????????? He had ONE successful season ..in 2005,when he would have been ranked in the top 5 batsmen in the world,(not catching) but since then he has gone down the drain,he would not be ranked in the top 20 at present,and you call that successful?? take your rose tinted glasses off mate,NOCOUNTRY is afraid of Petraitersen now he is a bit of a giggle nowadays,...did you see the self quote he made sometime ago????

I really lack the words to compliment myself today.Kevin Pietersen

I'm afraid he was just a one season wonder.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:18 AM in reply to *Jonty*'s post starting "SUCCESSFULL??????????????????? He had..."
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SUCCESSFULL??????????????????? He had ONE successful season ..in 2005,when he would have been ranked in the top 5 batsmen in the world,(not catching) but since then he has gone down the drain,he would not be ranked in the top 20 at present,and you call that successful??
Firstly, my post was in response to someone else who felt Pietersen was 'afraid' of pace and short pitched bowling - did you have a comment on that you wished to make?

Secondly, you don't get an average of on or around 50 in Test Cricket by only having one 'good year' as you appear to claim and if you actually bothered to look at his yearly/seasonal averages you'd see for yourself that he hasn't only had one 'good year' -

2005 8m 16inn 674 runs ave 44.93
2006 14m 26inn 1343 runs ave 53.72
2007 11m 21inn 1007 runs ave 50.35
2008 1m 2 inn 48 runs ave 24.00

It's also not that hard to see that the year you claim was his "ONE successful season ..in 2005" was actually his worst complete year of his career so far in terms of his average and that's still in the mid 40's.

Do you consider an average of 45+ in three consecutive years to represent only one good year?

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take your rose tinted glasses off mate
I politely suggest you take some of your own advice and next time you feel inclined to refute something someone has said, you do so armed with some factual information that can support what you're saying.

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I'm afraid he was just a one season wonder.
Only in your somewhat 'myopic' opinion, everyone else who has the capability of looking up stats will think otherwise.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:43 AM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Firstly, my post was in response to..."
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No matter how you argue about Petraitersen,HE DOESN'T EVEN RAISE AN EYEBROW,with the other International cricket Nations,maybe,justmaybe,causes a bit of concern to Zimbabwe.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:55 AM in reply to *Jonty*'s post starting "No matter how you argue about..."
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No matter how you argue about Petraitersen,HE DOESN'T EVEN RAISE AN EYEBROW,with the other International cricket Nations,maybe,justmaybe,causes a bit of concern to Zimbabwe.
The usual kind response from someone whose just had their argument utterly shredded and torn apart.

This is the only Pietersen stat you should be interested in -

v Australia 10m 20inns 2* 963runs 158high score 53.50 average
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:44 PM in reply to *Jonty*'s post starting "No matter how you argue about..."
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No matter how you argue about Petraitersen,HE DOESN'T EVEN RAISE AN EYEBROW,with the other International cricket Nations,maybe,justmaybe,causes a bit of concern to Zimbabwe.
Do you know how stupd that sounds? All the nations know that KP is England's best and potentially most destructive bat. Most of them have suffered from being on the receiving end of a session or two of KP.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:16 PM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Firstly, my post was in response to..."
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2005 8m 16inn 674 runs ave 44.93
2006 14m 26inn 1343 runs ave 53.72
2007 11m 21inn 1007 runs ave 50.35
2008 1m 2 inn 48 runs ave 24.00

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Far be it from me to agree with a Surrey man but I think he may have you there Jonty.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:03 PM in reply to south beds mikey's post starting "Far be it from me to agree with a..."
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Far be it from me to agree with a Surrey man but I think he may have you there Jonty.


Born in Middlesex, currently living in Surrey - which one should I go and watch? Sadly for Lords, the Oval and Guildford are easier to get to
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Old 13-03-2008, 03:40 AM in reply to south beds mikey's post starting "Do you know when it will be released..."
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Do you know when it will be released Acks?

Stop press: Keira Knightly has been signed. She's going to play a stump!!
No I dont mikey, IMDB has got a bit sneaky with pre and post production stuff now and made that paid members only area.

I do know they are scouring sub county and A grade district cricket ranks searching for a Larwood and Bradman. And when they find the lucky chap's (could be you) they are going to give them a 6 month intensive acting course, possibly with Mr R.Crowe.

I also know Ian Chappell is their cheif cricket advisor, and probably rightfully so considering as well as his extensive cricket knowledge his grandfather was Victor Richardson the Australian vice captain.

On the original mini series from the early 80's I thought Hugo Weaving (V, Matrix, Pricillia) played Douglas Jardine very well. But the rest of the cast was pretty ordinary.
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