Annoyed by ignorance

[MrIceKool]

Merry Xmas all....

anyways back to the topic,

We all know Bangladesh have made a poor start to their test career, and that they were given test status too early. At times it seems Bangladesh is really making positive strides, but then it's like they take one step forward and two steps backwards.There are many examples of this, like for instance Bangladesh running Pakistan close in a test just over a year ago losing by just one wicket, but then went on a terrible run. Again they manage their first ever test match draw without the weather intervening against the West Indies in the summer, but again go on a horrible run.

We all know Bangladesh will take time to improve, yet there are many so called fans of cricket calling for them to be stripped of test status. Fair enough they may have valid reasons with Bangladesh's constant poor performances. Though what really irritates me is when these so called fans, who think they know it all, make wise cracks like 'when will bangladesh ever achieve a draw without mother nature intervening',' Bangladesh wouldnt beat the current Zimbabwe size' etc. such statements can easily be found on the bbc message boards, if these fans were so knowledgeable like they think they are, why don't they realise that Bangladesh drew with W.Indies in a test match recently, and that they actually beat a full strength zimbabwe side before they lost Heath Streak and his players in a ODI, where the series was run close.

I accept there will be always people demanding that Bangladesh should have their test status revoked, but i wish these people would actually have a deeper look into the team before running their mouths. It really shows them to be nothing but braindead idiots to me.

[imaginarydiva]

Bravo!Well said! *applause* Another indication of their talent is their performance in the first ODI against India.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by MrIceKool

Merry Xmas all....

I accept there will be always people demanding that Bangladesh should have their test status revoked, but i wish these people would actually have a deeper look into the team before running their mouths. It really shows them to be nothing but braindead idiots to me.

Merry xmas to you MrIcekool.

I agree with what you say, Bangladesh are a Test playing nation, they are not that much different to what Shri Lanks were a few years ago.

I really do with Bangladesh well, and I wish they could get a little help from the ICC.

I like a man who sticks up fot his team, Good Luck.

[Zainub]

Some very good points you made Mr. Ice Kool. And I appreciate your positive stance on this. Bangladesh are going through what is argubaly the toughest phase in any team's development, once they get beyond their first win, I'm sure people's attitude will improve. And they themselves will find it much easier. There is no doubt what so ever that they are a talented lot, that will at times struggle, may be more than just at times, and yes, there will be the frustration that they are seemingly moving one step forward and then a couple backward, but the suggestion that they will get beaten by anway is categorically untrue. Bangladesh have not had the opportunity to play an opposition that matches their strengths so we cannot hypothise that they will lose against Zimbabwe, Kenya, or any other minnow for that matter.

Reaction from people on cricket forums like TMS is understandable (though not justified), they are just fans, who as you say don't in all cases have enough knowledge of the game to pass on judgements like those but its when seemingly well informed, and the so called experts come up with things like "Neither Zimbabwe nor Bangladesh would cut it against an average state or county team" that I am annoyed most.

Just yesterday a very well known TV commentator (your trade mark "so called expert")expresed or should I say re-expresed his views on this Bangladesh (here) and I expressed on discussion concering that particular article here how disapointed I was with him and his article. Bangladesh's struggles in test cricket are nothing new, virtually every side barring Aus and England perhaps struggled to greater or lesser extents in the early parts of their test journeys. I don't know why there should be so much fuss made out of it now when there was no fuss made out of it before.

People must take a chill pill. And relax. It's not big deal. Bangladesh will start doing respectably sooner or later.

[bdmoderator]

Currently Bangladeshi batting line up is not good. It is always collupsing. It is happening again and again.
Exclude this, Bangladesh is improving and doing well. Bangladeshi bowling line up is now very good. We have pacers Mashrafee, Tapash, Nazmul, Talha Jubair, Mushfique. Also have top class left arm spinner like Mohammad Rafique, Manjarul Rana. We got Khaled Mashud as our wicketkeeper who is a very good wicketkeeper. Fielding is also improved. (Excluding current India tour.) So we are improving I think. If our batsmen start to do well, we can beat any top ranks teams.

Another think is that, Bangladeshis performance is better in away series than home series. After all, I think we need two more years to improve.

We have some good batsmen in U-19 and U-17 team. But they are not fit for International cricket. But you will see that some batsman already came to International cricket from U-19 teams. Ashraful, Nafees and Aftab are among them. I think some more batsmen will come very soon who can hit the ball and can also stay at the wicket.

Bangladesh need some more time. Just some more time.

[Zainub]

Good insight into the Bangladesh team that. Your batting really does collapse. You have a few good lads though, Ashraful for once, made a test 100 against us, and we had Shoaib in that test team along with Ahmed, so it was a decent attack he got it against. Nafees Iqbal I have seen my self and liked the look of. That lad scored a hundred against England in a tour game when England toured there I remember, he seemed to me like a very confident little character. I'll follow his performance closely from now onwards.

[Ernest]

Zainub is right bdm, if we have patience Bangladesh will mature in just the same way as Shri Lanks have, it takes years to mould a side together, in particular moving up tp Test Cricket level.

I for one will watch Bangladesh when you play England, with as much interest as any other team.

Keep The Faith.

[bdmoderator]

Thanks Ernest. Nice to hear it.

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by MrIceKool

It really shows them to be nothing but braindead idiots to me.

Thanks I am happy to be a brain dead idiot, as my view remains the same that Test matches should involve some form of Test of Skill and Ability. When Bangladesh play anyone other than the equally inept Zimbabwe team, then lose by huge margins. This does not indicate to me that this is any way a Test.

I do not feel they should be stripped of that name, but I do feel that there should be two tiers of International Test Cricket, this will make things fairer and bring in some level of decent competition for Bangaldesh. See here http://www.world-a-team.com/showthre...3038#post33038

In the next few month Bangladesh will play England at home, they will paly Sussex and Northampton in warm up games. I would put my savings on them struggling in early season English conditions and not even getting close to beating either side. I do not give them a hope of beating the full England side, all I see is the potential for Vaughan, Strauss, Trescothick, Thorpe, Key and Flintoff to get a bag full of easy runs.

[vvvrulz]

But if there were to be two tiers, how would Bangladesh develop as a nation if theyre only playing mediocre teams? I don't think Sri Lanka would be anywhere near as good as they are if they weren't given the chance to stand up to the Aussies some years ago.