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Old 19-04-2004, 05:39 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Some players go backwards in county..."
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General point: even batsmen who start young generally get better throughout their 20s and peak aged 32-35. Some carry on at that peak way beyond that (in some cases well beyond 40).

Steve Waugh was first picked about a decade too early... and his Test average until his recall was distinctly ordinary. Gooch is another who just kept getting better and better as the years progressed.

With the amount of cricket played today I doubt we'll ever see another Jack Hobbs playing Tests until the age of 46 (average in Test career 56.94, average after he turned 30 57.42, average after turning 40 58.09) but if we are only going to get 10 years out of our best players I'd rather that it was when they are at their peak (28-38) not before they have really got going (18-28)!
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Old 19-04-2004, 05:48 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "General point: even batsmen who start..."
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Racheal on a totally diffrent note, have been across the way to the beeb site ? Descended into total chaos, clive went off on one and it got very messy. A quick straw count of the posts earlier on I saw one post from an england supporter and the rest from pom bashing aussies/WI supporters etc. Currently trying to syphon off a few to join here.
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Old 19-04-2004, 06:04 PM in reply to Richie Benauds Love Child's post starting "Racheal on a totally diffrent note,..."
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Yes think Clive got a real bee in his bonnett about mods... not sure why.
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Old 19-04-2004, 06:09 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Yes think Clive got a real bee in his..."
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He had a post removed and went a bit loopy. I think someone thought he said he liked norman tebbit about a subject about british asians. It then turned into a slanging match - not pretty and since removed. It has turned into a less than pleasant place to be.
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Old 19-04-2004, 08:18 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Some players go backwards in county..."
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england are crap against spin because the county's are afraid of using it. that is the county's falt and can you blame young talented cricketers for losing enthusiasm in the game when it's bleak in april and steadily raining the rest of the time with 5 'rain or shine' old people in the crowd. what's the point? it must be so depressing. im just glad there's an academy for them now to get a bit of the good life. oh yeah and peng got 49 and 66 against warne when the rest of that talentless durham lot got **** all and carberry got a 97 ball century today.
It's just my gut instinct but why not just pick players on style, temprement and time at the crease
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Old 20-04-2004, 12:34 PM in reply to dezz's post starting "england are crap against spin because..."
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How often have you seen Nicky Peng play?

He generally does ok in the one day stuff but fails in the county championships. Peng is still a promising player, but he is a long long way from being an England player yet. I have seen a fair bit of Durham over the last couple of years and the gulf between Collingwood and the rest at Durham is marked. Gary Pratt showed some form as well as promise at the end of last year, and I would say is ahead of Peng in the order at the moment, but neither is International class yet.
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Old 21-04-2004, 10:22 AM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Some players go backwards in county..."
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Originally Posted by Rachael

English conditions are actually very good for honing batting skills: there's often a lot of sideways movement for the batsman to combat... both in the air and off the seam... and we've now got a host of great overseas bowlers: Harmison and Akhtar bowling in tandem at Durham should be interesting... Warne is over here with Hampshire... I think Murali is coming back again.
Murali is unavailable for the entirety of this season but has expressed an interest in returning next year for kent.
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Old 21-04-2004, 10:25 AM in reply to Tom Partis's post starting "Murali is unavailable for the entirety..."
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Not if he gets a twelve month ban though !!!
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Old 21-04-2004, 11:02 AM in reply to cantplaycantalk's post starting "How often have you seen Nicky Peng..."
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How often have you seen Nicky Peng play?

He generally does ok in the one day stuff but fails in the county championships. Peng is still a promising player, but he is a long long way from being an England player yet. I have seen a fair bit of Durham over the last couple of years and the gulf between Collingwood and the rest at Durham is marked. Gary Pratt showed some form as well as promise at the end of last year, and I would say is ahead of Peng in the order at the moment, but neither is International class yet.
Well Cant . Although I don't really support any team . I rather follow players who I think could play for England . I do like Durham they seem to have the right attitude when it comes to bringing young players through . I just hope Peng ,Muchall & G Pratt push on this year .Although a good start from Peng .
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Old 21-04-2004, 11:08 AM in reply to darren cook's post starting "Well Cant . Although I don't really..."
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Peng's due in next against the World Class Notts attack! Muchall and Pratt are currently in. None of them appear to be hanging around this morning, the openers scored at 4.5 per over!!!


Peng appears to have the talent but not necessarily the application.
 


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