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Old 03-05-2004, 11:00 AM in reply to Mike_Hock's post starting "Ok, I thought Sachin HAD opened for..."
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I thought Sachin HAD opened for India in the past, but a quick check proved me wrong. Therefore I would move Tendulkar down the order in place of Youhana, and bring Vaughan in as the second opener
Smith Vaughan (Cpt) Dravid Lara Tendulkar Thorpe Flintoff Read (Wkt) Pollock Harmison Murali

Vaughan has done well with what he had,so with better players,he gets the nod for Cpt.
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Old 03-05-2004, 02:02 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Mike Hock"
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Vaughan has done well with what he had,so with better players,he gets the nod for Cpt.
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Who do you think is currently the best Test Captain in the world?

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Old 03-05-2004, 03:05 PM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Ernest Who do you think is currently..."
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Ernest

Who do you think is currently the best Test Captain in the world?

Scott
Michael vaughan

He has done wonders with the players he has had to chose from.

R Ponting comes close,he has done the same sort of thing,but with more recourses,Smith came in the frame but he is to like Nassa I think.
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Old 03-05-2004, 08:57 PM in reply to Rich Greenfield's post starting "Gibbs Vaughan* Laxman Tendulker ..."
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Gibbs
Vaughan*
Laxman
Tendulker
Dravid
Kallis
Boucher+
Flintoff
Pollock
Jones
H Singh
Jones? Singh? Laxman opening - please say this is a joke?
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Old 03-05-2004, 09:00 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Mike Hock"
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Read (Wkt)
He can't even get in the England Team
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Old 03-05-2004, 09:09 PM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "He can't even get in the England Team"
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Old 03-05-2004, 09:13 PM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "He can't even get in the England Team"
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He can't even get in the England Team
The touring selectors are different fron the full selection board.

Read could be in the 1st Test squad against New Zealand,the touring selectors can be easy overruled.
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Old 03-05-2004, 09:51 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Flanflinger"
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Read could be in the 1st Test squad against New Zealand,the touring selectors can be easy overruled.
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I really can't see that hapoening, both Vaughan and Fletcher have publicly stated that they have ended the select/drop/select/drop procedures favoured some time ago and that new people selected now will be given a reasonable run in the side to prove themselves.

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Old 04-05-2004, 07:51 AM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Ernest I really can't see that..."
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My impression is that Fletcher and Vaughan acted unilaterally on the Read / Jones issue to pre-empt a full selectorial meeting ahead of the NZ series... and to really **** off Rod Marsh: everything about the way it was handled suggests they feared that they would either be told to persist with Read or get one from Foster / Wallance or Prior... and they were prepared to go to extreme lengths to prevent that from happening.

Sadly, Fletcher seems such a stubborn bugger that he's unlikely to back down from a fight... and the ECB guys are so worried about adverse publicity that they will move heavan and earth to avoid the next selection meeting producing headlines.

I can see Fletcher getting a serious rap over the knuckles and a warning that this must never happen again.. but I can't see the selectors humiliating Vaughan by forcing him to eat his words about Jones getting a good run (at least not ahead of the 1st Test).

Anyone betting on Fletcher and Marsh both being involved in English cricket in 12 months time?
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:19 AM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Ernest I really can't see that..."
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My two (euro)cents

Openers

Sehwag and Gibbs

OK, both are accused of being flat-track bullies with some justification, but I reckon most tests one of these two is going to fire, and make big runs. They are both head and shoulders above fellow bully GC Smith, no contest there. Richardson was tempting, as I reckon the top order (1-3) needs a sheet-anchor player to provide a foundation. Fortunately, ROW have the best man for the job there could possibly be at three........

Middle order

Dravid*
Tendulkar
Lara
Kallis

Dravid is a seasoned, respected and intelligent player who has had success as captain. I see him as the ideal steady hand for the captaincy in this talented team. He is also the ideal man to come in to cover the possiblility of failure from the strokemaking openers - had he not been available, I think I'd have swapped Sehwag for Richardson. Tendulkar and Lara are pure class and with Kallis make up the engine room of the batting. This trio should score heavily on a flat pitch, but should also be more than capable of working it around when conditions are against them. Kallis is in for his batting alone, but his more tha useful seam bowling means I am perfectly happy to simply take my 4 best bowlers in the knowledge that the all-roudner slot is filled nicely.

Lower order

Sangakkara+
Pollock

Sangakkara is a decent keeper, used to keeping to nasty spin and is a handy batsman to boot. He and Pollock deepen the battign nicely, and shoudl ensure that runs come from down the order.

Tail

Harmison
Shoaib
Muralitharan

Harmison deserves the opportunity to show he is not a one series wonder. If he bowls like he did in WI again, he will take teams apart again - even if that team is the best in the world. He takes the new ball with Shoaib who, if he can sort his head out - personally I recommend the PAK board split his head open with a spade and replace his brain with a cauliflower, thus tripling his IQ - shoudl go on from here to prove that he is no longer the neanderthalish speedster he has been in the past. At times these days he looks like deserving his place in the top 5 of the ratings, and he certainly takes plenty of wickets - his strike rate is 45, which is more than good! If these two get it right, I would imagine the site of Pollock coming in first change would make the Aussies weant to pack up thier bags and go home. They survive Harmisons steepling bounce and awkward swing and seam and Akhtars bullying and harrying, only to be pinned back and forced to scrabble for singles. Allowed to bowl fairly long spells together with Kallis in the mid-innings, I would imagine Pollock would be more than capable of causing the usual Aussie flood of runs to reduce to a trickle. With Harmison and Akhtar coming in for short and sharp spells and buying a few wickets, I suspect that partnerships would not be allowed to get out of hand. If they did, then we simply call on Murali to see what he can do. I was also tempted by Kumble, but doosra or not, Murali really is one of the most successful spiiners in the hsitory of the game and that sort of status does not come easily.

I would back this ROW team to win most tests and on most surfaces.
 


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