Caddick

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by ernest

Yes I hope they stay with the winters winning 11,however to this squad I would add Strauss,Trescothick cant be carried for ever,he is really out of form,and when he returns home Mark he will have to start all over again.He should have come home with the test team for a break.

130 added to his score in the 4th Test doesn't look so bad to me.

[Ernest]

No he has answered his criticts the best way possible 100 plus.
Hope he carries this form into the test series against New Zealand.281 should be a winning score Mark.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by ernest

No he has answered his criticts the best way possible 100 plus.
Hope he carries this form into the test series against New Zealand.281 should be a winning score Mark.

Yes, 281 ought to be enough and will mean that England can't lose the series - they've never avoided defeat yet in a Carribean ODI series. That would be another monkey off their backs.

I would modestly point out that I said a few days ago that Trescothick was due a sequence of good scores. Now if only we can give a run transfusion to Vaughan...

[Mark Kidger]

Not a terribly distinguished match for Caddick against Essex. Time must be running out for him to state some kind of case for a recall.

[Ernest]

[quote=Mark Kidger]

"I would modestly point out that I said a few days ago that Trescothick was due a sequence of good scores."

Yes we should have enough runs.Well one of the openers came good,Trescothick needs a few more good scores before i am convinced.
Vaughn does need a few good scores as well.

Windies 19 -0 off 6 overs.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by ernest

Well one of the openers came good,Trescothick needs a few more good scores before i am convinced.
Vaughn does need a few good scores as well.

I agree with that and would back him to get at least a century and a fifty against New Zealand. Anything less and we'll be talking about giving him a rest again (and I was one of those who was suggesting after the 3rd Test that the time for a rest - "rest", not defenestration - had arrived). Vaughan needs to curbe his impetuosity. He looks in great nick, but keeps getting out after getting into double figures, which is worrying.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Mark Kidger

Vaughan needs to curbe his impetuosity. He looks in great nick, but keeps getting out after getting into double figures, which is worrying.

Its not just vaughan though is it Mark?Englands top six have the most annoying habit of batting themselves in,and then getting out in the 20s or 30s.

englands bowlers won this winters test series for us.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by ernest

Its not just vaughan though is it Mark?Englands top six have the most annoying habit of batting themselves in,and then getting out in the 20s or 30s.

englands bowlers won this winters test series for us.

That is true, although a little unfair. Thorpe, Butcher and Hussain all contributed greatly to winning matches. Vaughan is the worst offender - he's rarely failing and almost always gets into double figures, but rarely passes 30. Butcher also has had an annoying habit of getting 30, 40, 50 and then getting out instead of going on to a big score. In general though, the West Indies series was played on poor pitches, as were the matches in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, where low scores were the norm. Hussain's two 70s against Bangladesh in the 2nd Test were probably worth big centuries on a better track.

[Ernest]

Yes I was unfair to Butcher,he did make some decent scores,Thorpe made a match winning score,but they never really fired, I dont think,I know the pitches where poor,but our top order batsmen got themselves out playing poor strokes,more than the bowlers getting them out.

Butcher for every good score he got,he would drop a catch of Flintoffs bowling.

Windies are not going that bad at the moment,I am a bit dissapointed with Anderson,Gough went for some,pertinent on this thread....

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by ernest

Windies are not going that bad at the moment,I am a bit dissapointed with Anderson,Gough went for some,pertinent on this thread....

Anderson has got a quick wicket and then proceded to have a nightmare... If it starts raining we could lose this.