Caddick

[flanflinger]

In an interview in today's Sun Caddick said: “I’m still the best bowler in the country as far as I’m concerned and I am fitter than ever."

After his recent gaff in Wisden magazine about walking into the England team, does someone need to tell him when to shut up so his doesn't keep looking a complete fool.

[Scott-Wozniak]

Originally Posted by flanflinger

After his recent gaff in Wisden magazine about walking into the England team, does someone need to tell him when to shut up so his doesn't keep looking a complete fool.

FF

Hopefully he'll get his chance to play against the Kiwi's and let his performance do the talking for him. In my mind it may well be Jones who makes way, I think Hoggy's swing is more valuable then Jones's wayward pace at the moment - but it depends entirely on the wickets and whether they decide to include a batsman instead of Giles or play that extra seamer.

Scott

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by flanflinger

In an interview in today's Sun Caddick said: “I’m still the best bowler in the country as far as I’m concerned and I am fitter than ever."

After his recent gaff in Wisden magazine about walking into the England team, does someone need to tell him when to shut up so his doesn't keep looking a complete fool.

I have seen the same quotes of caddick,it must be hard for him to come to terms with the fact that he is not the best bowler in the country.

He must have woke up one day and seen the new look England attack,and found it hard when he realised he was not part of it.

He will find support in a lot of quarters,I have seen post with fans putting him in, what would be their team.

He will soon reallise that his only chance of being an England bowler again is at one day level.

when he reallises this then he will stop what he is saying.

[Scott-Wozniak]

Originally Posted by ernest

He will soon reallise that his only chance of being an England bowler again is at one day level.

Ernest

Whats your reasoning behind Caddick only becoming an England bowler in ODI's? Why do you think he's not good enough to play in the England Test Squad?

Scott

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Scott-Wozniak

Ernest

Whats your reasoning behind Caddick only becoming an England bowler in ODI's? Why do you think he's not good enough to play in the England Test Squad?

Scott

Scott
I dont see how he can make a test comeback,I mean who would you leave out to place him back in the team.I have a lot of respect for Andrew caddick he has been a great bowler for England,a match could be drifting then he would pluck wickets out of the blue.

He has not got a good injury record,he has not been back that long.

It did not work with Gough did it? just seems to me it would be a backward step to pick him for test matches again.

However he has a lot of support,he could be back,it is not a matter I feel passionate about,you know what I think but if he was picked,I would wish him well,and would take a keen interest when he came on to bowl.

[Mark Kidger]

It's very hard to imagine, with Anderson waiting desperately for a chance in the side, that Caddick will get into the XII for the Tests unless he has some brilliant early-season performances. So far there is nothing to suggest that he is going to justify a call-up. He's bowled 71 overs so far this season in the first two matches and taken 4 wickets at 48 each with best figures of 2-80. No wickets so far in today's game either. That does not look like a clatter of wickets to attract the selectors. Mind you, Richard Johnson's figures are worse!

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Mark Kidger

It's very hard to imagine that Caddick will get into the XII for the Tests unless he has some brilliant early-season performances. He's bowled 71 overs so far this season in the first two matches and taken 4 wickets at 48 each with best figures of 2-80. No wickets so far in today's game either.

I'm not quite sure what he's had done. Prolapsed disc..erm...what do you do to that?

Botham had a couple of vertebrae fused which extended his career (for a better or worse - mainly worse as I recall) by a year or so.

But Caddick's 36...I agree it's going to be very hard for him to come back.

I remember Botham saying that he retired because he didn't like the feeling of getting up in the morning and (I forget his actual words) having to wait until all his extremities A) stopped hurting and B) started working before he could get off his bed.
Reminds me of a guy who aged 46 or so, started moaning in our club changing room after a match: "I hate it when it hurts ALL the time."

I feel for Caddick. But at 36, as you suggest he's going to have to do something quite wonderful to get back.
Unless Fletcher completely loses his patience with Giles and Hoggard - the latter not likely.

However, Caddick only ever seemed to be able to perform in the second innings. So how greater loss is he?

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Mark Kidger

It's very hard to imagine, with Anderson waiting desperately for a chance in the side, that Caddick will get into the XII for the Tests unless he has some brilliant early-season performances. So far there is nothing to suggest that he is going to justify a call-up. He's bowled 71 overs so far this season in the first two matches and taken 4 wickets at 48 each with best figures of 2-80. No wickets so far in today's game either. That does not look like a clatter of wickets to attract the selectors. Mind you, Richard Johnson's figures are worse!

Yes I agree,Anderson reminds me of caddick when he was in his prime,in this respect Anderson can bowl a bad session,then come back out of the blue,and take three wickets or so,caddick used to be the same,the game could be coasting along,caddick would be ordinary at best,then at times he could start sending down unplayable deliveries.

Just one point,the selectors in the past have selected players who have done nothing special at county level,one slip by one of the young ones,and the pressure would be on for caddick to be recalled.

Funny people selectors,I can remember Derick Pringles extended run.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by ernest

Just one point,the selectors in the past have selected players who have done nothing special at county level,one slip by one of the young ones,and the pressure would be on for caddick to be recalled.

It's possible. If England were one down with one to play and one or two of the bowlers struggling there might be calls to bring back Caddick to try to square the series. However, after the exeprience of Gough trying to come back to Test cricket from a long-term injury last season and remembering that Caddick is older than Gough, it would be taking an almighty risk. Caddick has done it at the top level and in the Ashes series did win that last Test with his bowling after a very firey spell in the 4th Test, but his form so far this season is modest at best.

[Ernest]

Mark
Hard one this,one down and one to play.
No I would not bring back Caddick,I would try someone like Chapple.
Young players can soon hang their heads when things go wrong,I would be worried that Caddick would break down like Gough,or maybe I would make no changes,and then I could see what fight the team had.