Today's Match Eng v WI 6th ODI

[Whips_off_the_bails]

You've never heard me rubbish the WI batting.

A player like Dwayne Smith showed himself completely at a loss in the Test match arena on a sporting wicket (despite his hundred in SA), but came good when he had licence to thrash.

I'm hoping this is the match when Vaughan finally establishes himself in the ODI arena.

[Mike]

Mark, the commentators mentioned the young West Indian players - Bravo, Rampaul, D Smith and Sarwan - all under 24 as being the nucleus for the future. I don't think you can take a young side into the WC and win it. I fancy ENG to go further in the WC because they have more experience in their side.

I don't think there is a good understanding of running between wickets between Vaughan and Strauss. They need to work on that. Too much hesitation.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by Whips_off_the_bails

You've never heard me rubbish the WI batting.

Clive, if you supported my prediction (both before the tour started) and after the Test series ended, that the West Indian batting would win the ODI series for them then I apologise. I didn't recall anyone agreeing with me. I said all along that I fancied England to win the Tests and lose the ODIs.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by Mike

Mark, the commentators mentioned the young West Indian players - Bravo, Rampaul, D Smith and Sarwan - all under 24 as being the nucleus for the future. I don't think you can take a young side into the WC and win it. I fancy ENG to go further in the WC because they have more experience in their side.

Again, I would remind you that I was saying through the Test series that the West Indies have the nucleus of a world-beating side, if they can find the right captain and keep the team together. In 2-3 years they could be a formidable proposition if they don't throw it away. Nothing that I have seen has made me change that opinion. In fact, events have reinforced it.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Mark Kidger

That was in Tests. Look at what has happened to him this winter when the batsmen have gone after him

Mark I am sure Gile bowled that negative line in the one day series in Englands last tour of England,helping them to draw,or win the series,anyway if my memory serves me right England were behind in the series,and then they turned it round.

I may have to stand to be corrected.

[Scott-Wozniak]

Originally Posted by Mark Kidger

Odd how the West Indian batting that was been run down as pathetic in the Tests is suddenly being talked up as brilliant again...

Mark

I think the Windies batting on flat pitches in ODI's is a completely different proposition to their batting in Tests on pitches that favour bowlers.

The West Indies have a lot more 'power-hitters' in their ODI side than they do in the Test side and I certainly don't include Powell in that either!

Scott

[Whips_off_the_bails]

Anything bowled down leg-side is called a wide in one-day cricket.

[Mark Kidger]

Originally Posted by Scott-Wozniak

I think the Windies batting on flat pitches in ODI's is a completely different proposition to their batting in Tests on pitches that favour bowlers.

And the England side is also radically different and much weaker. As I said, we are willing to risk losing matches to get a winning team for the 2007 WC. The Windies have not got that luxury. Seen the West Indians run down made me angry, because there is plenty of talent and when the side comes good it will come good in a BIG way.

[Miles Cooper]

Vaughan is the best spinner England have at their disposal although I undersatan he is reluctant to bowl himself too much as he is apparently prone to Atherton-esque shoulder truoble, or so I've heard. That said, he did bowl long spells during Lara's 400*

[Ernest]

Posting a good score is the first consideration,Windies are bowling well at the moment,no reason we should not do the same Hmmm