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Old 05-05-2004, 02:41 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "Overall, Scott, I agree that the..."
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Too many run out calls are referred these days. Umpires in the top flight jolly well SHOULD be in the right place to get these calls right, and usually are. There are times, I think, where a call is blindingly obvious even at full pace, but the umpire feels that he needs to take a TV replay simply to cover his backside. That disrupts play and is bad for the game - as, indeed, is the case of the batsman who is out by a yard but still hangs around waiting for the red light (can't remember who this was, but one of the Englishmen run out on Sunday played this game, at least according to the TalkSport commentator).
Powell: there's another example. Greig tells me he was out by a metre. If that's true, Powell knew it and so did the umpire. So why was a third umpire involved?
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Old 05-05-2004, 02:50 PM in reply to debbotheiron's post starting "Yes I see exactly what you mean re...."
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Yes I see exactly what you mean re. taking the game away from cricket, however, traditionally part of the "joy" of cricket has been the interpretation of the umpire. "The umpire is always right, even if he's wrong" being something drummed into us as young cricketers.
Yes the game was better before the advent of the big screen,showing up every mistake made by an umpire,nowadays there is no were for an umpire to hide.

Fact is the big screens are here,and they will carry on playing replays.

I dont think they could be banned,I dont think Sky would allow it.

What we can do is keep the change in the laws as little as possible

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Old 05-05-2004, 03:24 PM in reply to Ernest's post "debbotheion"
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Third umpires can get it wrong about run-out calls as well. I think it was in 98/99 Ashes series when everyone watching on TV knew Slater (I think) was out on about 10. He went on to get 100. We'd have lost the series, and probably the match, anyway, but it jsut shows that even 3rd umpires can be flawed.
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Old 05-05-2004, 03:35 PM in reply to sostenurter's post starting "Third umpires can get it wrong about..."
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[quote=sostenurter]Third umpires can get it wrong about run-out calls as well. I think it was in 98/99 Ashes series when everyone watching on TV knew Slater (I think) was out 3rd umpires can be flawed.[/QUOT

Agreed but that was five years ago,there might have been another one,just cant bring it to mind.

A third umpire to me making one mistake in five years is prefarable to tennis line umpires,look at the times they get it wrong.

the whole matter is frustrating because we can all see the mistakes on TV,we will just have to live with it,better than tinkering with the rules.
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Old 05-05-2004, 06:30 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Sostenurter"
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Do I really need a better case in point for the need for technology to be introduced into umpire decision making after other 'unbeleivable' dismissal of Vaughan in the current ODI - another very poor decision from the umpire - the look on Vaughan's face really said it all.

A noise DOES NOT necessarily indicate that the ball touched the bat!

This is exactly what I mean about the need to get decisions RIGHT, and not a best guess at what the umpire 'thinks' may have happened.

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Old 05-05-2004, 06:33 PM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Do I really need a better case in point..."
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Old 05-05-2004, 06:46 PM in reply to Scott-Wozniak's post starting "Do I really need a better case in point..."
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Do I really need a better case in point for the need for technology to be introduced into umpire decision making after other 'unbeleivable' dismissal of Vaughan in the current ODI - another very poor decision from the umpire - the look on Vaughan's face really said it all.


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Scott ,we have the technology,if you saw Vaughans face on the tv,a 3rd umpire would be able ,to decide on the same images you saw.
I am following the teat on radio,so I did not see what you saw.
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:10 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Scott Wozniak"
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These kind of decisions have always happened, it isn't a modern phenomenan!! At the end of the day, you have to except that things won't go your way sometimes!!! I know the decision was a bad one, but become overly dependent on technology is not in the best intersts of the game!
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:14 PM in reply to Kirsty Harris's post starting "Scott These kind of decisions have..."
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These kind of decisions have always happened, it isn't a modern phenomenan!! At the end of the day, you have to except that things won't go your way sometimes!!! I know the decision was a bad one, but become overly dependent on technology is not in the best intersts of the game!
i agree kirsty.... besides if we became overly relaint on technology i'd never get a wicket and always be out!
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Old 05-05-2004, 07:17 PM in reply to freddie flintoff 142's post starting "i agree kirsty.... besides if we became..."
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LOL!! And anyone who's seen the Terminator knows we shouldn't get too dependant on technology ...shudder!!!!
 


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