cricket changes

[Scott-Wozniak]

Originally Posted by ernest

Scott ,we have the technology,if you saw Vaughans face on the tv,a 3rd umpire would be able ,to decide on the same images you saw. I am following the teat on radio,so I did not see what you saw.

Ernest

Well the bat hit the ground as he played his shot, and the ball passed the bat - all I can assume was that the Umpire felt that the noise was the ball hitting the bat which it clearly wasn't - it was the bat hitting the ground.

Technology would ensure these kind of decisions cannot be made.

Scott

[Scott-Wozniak]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

These kind of decisions have always happened, it isn't a modern phenomenan!! At the end of the day, you have to except that things won't go your way sometimes!!! I know the decision was a bad one, but become overly dependent on technology is not in the best intersts of the game!

Kirsty

Well I'm afraid I don't accept that batsmen should be given out when clearly they are not while technology exists that can ensure that the correct decisions get made. To state that 'these kind of decisions have always happened' is merely an acceptance of the status quo because 'its always been that way' is not in my mind a strong enough reason not to employ technology to assist umpires in making the correct decisions.

There are far too many Cricket games these days that can 'turn' on one poor decision.

I'm convinced in my mind that the time has come for technology to play its part in Umpiring decision making to ensure the correct decisions get made - not a 'best guess' by the umpire, if Umpires continue to make 'poor' decisions they must be forced into using technology.

Our views on this are cleary diametric, so well have to politely agree to disagree!

Scott

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Scott-Wozniak

Ernest

Well the bat hit the ground as he played his shot, and the ball passed the bat - all I can assume was that the Umpire felt that the noise was the ball hitting the bat which it clearly wasn't - it was the bat hitting the ground.

Technology would ensure these kind of decisions cannot be made.

Scott

Scott,
Yes I agree it would,did the big replay screen show what you have described to me?

thanks for info

[Kirsty Harris]

Scott

As you know, I always polietly disagree

I do understand your viewpoint, but I suppose what worries me is that more and more pressure is being heaped on umpires, and all these replays and so on only serve to highten it! Most umpires do a good job most of the time, but, of course, mistakes happen...

I mean it could be argued that England's series win in 1998 v SA was due to bad decisions made by the unpires...luck evens itself out in the end!!

But I also think that it is probable that new technology will be used at some point... so I think you'll get your wish!!

[Scott-Wozniak]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

But I also think that it is probable that new technology will be used at some point... so I think you'll get your wish!!

Kirsty

I just want the correct decisions to be made, no more no less. If that has to involve technology then it does, if that forces Umpires to have to refer more decisions to the third umpire - then it does. I don't advocate change for changes sake - only to make the game in my eyes - a fairer one. Stating that 'bad decisions' even themselves out - in no way helps one side that lose matches because of them.

Scott

[Kirsty Harris]

But don't football teams lose games on the back of bad penalty decisions? And don't tennis players lose games because of bad line calls? It happens!!! Life is full of ups and downs and bumps in the road, so cricket is only a reflection on the journey of life, if you think about it

O.K -I better leave it there, I'm starting to sound like a hippie!!!!!

[sostenurter]

Hmmm. Vaughan especially seems to go through these periods of good and bad luck - before 2002 he had rotten luck, with bad decisions, hitting the wicket, getting caught when the ball stuck in the fielder's shirt. We were all saying that he was due some good luck and hopefully would get some big scores, and lo and behold! the season that was 2002/03 happened for him. And if we're being fair, he did get some good luck in that spell - the first 100 he hit in that year , against India, he looked in very poor form, was dropped on 0, or not given out, or soemthing similar, but somehow struggled through to make 100. That set up the rest of the series for him. Likewise, his first Ashes century was lucky, because he was really caught on 17 or so, but (and here is an example of technology complicating the issue) they referrred the catch to the 3rd umpire, who couldn't be sure if it had carried, so gave Vaughan the benefit of the doubt.

Vaughan has had some poor luck this series, and undoubtedly the pressure of being captain is affecting his game, but I think he's due some good luck and some good form, and hopefully it will all come good for him against NZ.

[freddie flintoff 142]

Originally Posted by sostenurter

Vaughan has had some poor luck this series, and undoubtedly the pressure of being captain is affecting his game, but I think he's due some good luck and some good form, and hopefully it will all come good for him against NZ.

couldn't agree more, a player of his class though needs luck, if ya see wot i mean, with the type of shots he plays (drives, pulls and sweeps) need a bit of luck at times. but i'm fairly sure he'll get at least 1 100 per seiries from now on, he looks to be gettin used to batting and captaining

[baby freddie]

indeedy, i agree with you for a change! someone needs to shout and make him cry, how bout me?!! lol cya later!

[freddie flintoff 142]

Originally Posted by baby freddie

indeedy, i agree with you for a change! someone needs to shout and make him cry, how bout me?!! lol cya later!

you freak vikki