Murali - why is he still bowling the Doosra?

[Rich Greenfield]

So if he is a role model to young kids then they are going to copy him, that means more people chucking (and damaging their bodies by trying to copy him) which can only lead to dropping standards. Yes quality spinners are rare, thats why people Appreciate them when they come along.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Mike

Rachael, I totally agree with you that pitch conditions and/or bowling regulations should promote spinners as strike bowlers. If this happened, spinners would bowl more overs in a match allowing more rest time for the injury-prone pace bowlers. We would also see a greater array of shot-making by the batsmen.

Mike

You cant Take test status away from a ground just because the pitch does not take spin on day five(I think Rachael had tounge in cheek when he said that) to many imponderables for that,moisture in the pitch,cloud cover(Captins would put their swing bowlers on),and pitches theses days dont break down like they used to.

More shot making against quallity spinners hmmm,dont see Warne,or Murly,getting knocked all over the park,quite the reverse shot making would cease,if the pitch was taking sharp spin,runs would dry up as the batsmen offered no attacking shots,for fear of an edge,.

Just an afterthought if all the grounds broke the rules,and made pitches of no used to spin,and they had their Test status taken from then were would they play?

[Rich Greenfield]

Pitches don't break upnow because they have all been dug up and replaced with clay that doesn't break up in the same way as natural soils do.
Warne and Murli do get smashed all over the park when they play Lara or the indians

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Rich Greenfield

Pitches don't break upnow because they have all been dug up and replaced with clay that doesn't break up in the same way as natural soils do

I can see your point,but I dont want to see a pitch,that starts to break down early in a match,if you used natural soil,that would happen.I respect your opinion but to engineer pitches to take spin,but I think that is a bad Idea.

Not so many batsmen have smashed Warne all over the park,he is almost a freak the amount of turn he achieves,I have seen him do it on all linds of pitches.

[Rich Greenfield]

Originally Posted by ernest

Not so many batsmen have smashed Warne all over the park,he is almost a freak the amount of turn he achieves,I have seen him do it on all linds of pitches.

Warne said in his book that he had nightmares about Tendulker but then who wouldn't, Lara has belted him a few times as had Laxman.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Rich Greenfield

Warne said in his book that he had nightmares about Tendulker but then who wouldn't, Lara has belted him a few times as had Laxman.

Yes but look how short your list is.

Tendulker and for that matter Lara,did not need special pitches built so they could play Warne,they did it with talent.and that is how it should be.
There are more players than Warne had nighmares about bowling at Tendulker...
Ernest

[Rich Greenfield]

Yeah but Tendulker and Laxman did do it in India on pitches that were turning square.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Rich Greenfield

Yeah but Tendulker and Laxman did do it in India on pitches that were turning square.

Well they do turn square in India,so it would be reasonable to assume that the Indian players(Tendulkerand Laxman)would be better equipped to play spin,thann other Test playing countries.

And if we should dig up our pitches to take spin,it also follows than nations like India should make their pitches,have more pace and bounce,for pace bowlers.
Ernest

[Rich Greenfield]

The pitches in this counrty do need to be dug up. Not just to encourage spin but to make them more consistant in bounce and pace.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Rich Greenfield

The pitches in this counrty do need to be dug up. Not just to encourage spin but to make them more consistant in bounce and pace.

Some pitches are rubbish,thats true,we have some featherbeds as well,and they are worse,The oval is usually a good pitch,something in it for everyone.

Headingly,now there is a result pitch,always good for the quicks,I dont think it would be a popular move to dig that up.

I am all for good pitches,I would settle for 90% of them being like the ovel,the rest being result pitches for added interest,

yes I agree we need good pitches....