Hick does England a favour

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Oliver

So it's not a weak side, because Gatting, Gower, Gooch, Edmonds and Emburey would walk into today's Test side, Pringle was decent in the right conditions at his pedestrian pace and Gladstone Small was a good bowler full stop.

I think Pringle was a terrible player I have not seen one worse,Edmunds and Emburey,have never been replaced really,they where class.

Strange I was listening to the radio,we were playing New Zealand in NZ,and believe it or not,The demon destroyer of them was D Pringle.,not sure wich year.

Ernest

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by ernest

I think Pringle was a terrible player I have not seen one worse,Edmunds and Emburey,have never been replaced really,they where class.

Strange I was listening to the radio,we were playing New Zealand in NZ,and believe it or not,The demon destroyer of them was D Pringle.,not sure wich year.

Ernest

I pleased to report Ernest, that you are suffering from False Memory Syndrome. Pringle only bowled on one tour of New Zealand in 1991/92 when he took five wickets for 162 in two Tests.

To my way of thinking these figures do not resemble those of a demon destroyer.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Oliver

I pleased to report Ernest, that you are suffering from False Memory Syndrome. Pringle only bowled on one tour of New Zealand in 1991/92 when he took five wickets for 162 in two Tests.

To my way of thinking these figures do not resemble those of a demon destroyer.

Oliver,you had me going then,I had my coat on ready to get some pills,thought I was going Ga GA,but then I decided to have a look at the stats,(all the stats,)I said I was listening to the radio (one nigh) I never said what form of cricket.

In 1991/92 in Christchurch he took 2 wickets for 11 runs in a one dayer,now thet is good by any standerds,and by Pringles standard I think demon destroyer is fair enough.

Ernest

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by ernest

Oliver,you had me going then,I had my coat on ready to get some pills,thought I was going Ga GA,but then I decided to have a look at the stats,(all the stats,)I said I was listening to the radio (one nigh) I never said what form of cricket.

In 1991/92 in Christchurch he took 2 wickets for 11 runs in a one dayer,now thet is good by any standerds,and by Pringles standard I think demon destroyer is fair enough.

Ernest

Ok Ernest. You win...well sort of.

I never look at ODI stats because IMHO it's a bloody silly game - even though it's moreorless what I play every Sunday - and the figures don't mean anything in real terms.

The only ODI's anyone ever REALLY remembers are the World Cup denouments...semis and final - we always remember our semi v. South Africa, because the Australian method of settling rain affected matches was so farcical.
Except you Ernest, who remembers Pringle's two wicket destruction of New Zealand at Christchurch.

I'm impressed with that though. Why has it stuck in your mind? It must be the sheer shock of Pringle conceding just that shade over one per over and thereby briefly proving his worth.

Still at least we're agreed on his true merit as a Test performer.

[Whips_off_the_bails]

Put Derek Pringle on the pre-1993 Headingley pitch (the one we used to win every year on, before they dug it up) and he was a match-winning all-rounder.

On any other pitch, he was a six-foot-nine embarrassment.

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Whips_off_the_bails

Put Derek Pringle on the pre-1993 Headingley pitch (the one we used to win every year on, before they dug it up) and he was a match-winning all-rounder.

On any other pitch, he was a six-foot-nine embarrassment.

With you there...
...I've always been a horses for courses man myself. Perhaps we should play the next five Tests in Castle Park, Colchester, then nobody would argue with Hussain making 100 Test caps!

Interesting that Pringle's best English ground figures are indeed at Headingley: averaging 27 ish for 22 wickets from six matches with one fivefer.

I personally would have shepherded him well away from the side for the rest of the series.
Never know we might've come up with another couple of superstars. That's if you're calling Pringers destructive at any rate.

There again regarding Pringle it is a massive indictment against the then England attack that this man was allowed to continue playing for as long as he did. Seventy Test wickets over ten years is ridiculous.

His newspaper reports are terrible too.

I always love the fact that it's easier to be bloody rude about somebody, than jolly nice about them.
Whenever I do "nice," everyone sees heavy irony. It's just not fair!

[Kirsty Harris]

Originally Posted by ernest

In 1991/92 in Christchurch he took 2 wickets for 11 runs in a one dayer,now thet is good by any standerds,and by Pringles standard I think demon destroyer is fair enough.

Ernest

You know, I think I have vague memory's of that game...I was listening to it at my sister's house before school one morning...I think Pringle bowled a maidan over in the penultimate over of the New Zealand innings...funny the things that stay in your mind and pop out all of a sudden!

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

You know, I think I have vague memory's of that game...I was listening to it at my sister's house before school one morning...I think Pringle bowled a maidan over in the penultimate over of the New Zealand innings...funny the things that stay in your mind and pop out all of a sudden!

yes I have had one or two flashback I have posted on this board,One I have forgot noe Richard Jenkins was able to fill in my missing dates ect.I think it iis with talking cricket,you get flashbacks.

Did you like cricket at school?

[Kirsty Harris]

Originally Posted by ernest

yes I have had one or two flashback I have posted on this board,One I have forgot noe Richard Jenkins was able to fill in my missing dates ect.I think it iis with talking cricket,you get flashbacks.

Did you like cricket at school?

Yep, since I was about 13...1989 England v Austrailia. England lose - badly - the first, but not last ( ) time I lived through the heartbreak of Ashes defeat!

We didn't play cricket at my school though... I played in the school hocky team though (I've got lumpy knees thanks to that!)

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

Yep, since I was about 13...1989 England v Austrailia. England lose - badly - the first, but not last ( ) time I lived through the heartbreak of Ashes defeat!

We didn't play cricket at my school though... I played in the school hocky team though (I've got lumpy knees thanks to that!)

Tough game hocky,I liked watching the mens Hocky when they did well at one of the olympics,9they did not have lumpy knees,I played for my class cricket,loved it,could not bat,lucky if I touched the ball.
I bowled off spin,and a bit of over the wrist,did not do to bad,but it was only against lads