Vaughan Carried Off On Stretcher..

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Tom Partis

i'd be very surprised if key got called up before strauss,

i'd like to see strauss come in as a like for like swap.

I would like to see butcher moved up in vaughan's place,and Rob Key at no 3 or 4,

I know what you mean like for like swap,but it isn't reallyStrauss is not proven.Let the BBC posters chew on that.

[Kirsty Harris]

I just heard what happened to Vaughan today..looks and sounds very nasty. I hope it's not as bad as it looks .

You are a heartless lot, by the way...all you seem bothered about is who will take his place in the side...not much smypathey for the poor man...

[Pete]

How ever are we going to replace his wonderful fielding?

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

I just heard what happened to Vaughan today..looks and sounds very nasty. I hope it's not as bad as it looks

You are a heartless lot, by the way...all you seem bothered about is who will take his place in the side...not much smpathey for the poor man...

Hi Kirsty

Not a lot been said yet,close your eyes if you are squeamish,he was screaming in agony,not looking good,same knee that was injured before.

What do you mean heartless,we still need a team

Tell you what kirsty,thisl get your blood going,upgrade Butcher,puy Key at no 3 then we could replace Giles.

Seriously who will be captain,Scot reckons it has to be Tresco,not so sure he has just got a bit of batting form,last thing he needs is the pressure of being captainIts gota be Nasa,he's done it afore.

Poor chap might play yet,dont know how bad it is.....

[Kirsty Harris]

Originally Posted by ernest

Hi Kirsty

Not a lot been said yet,close your eyes if you are squeamish,he was screaming in agony,not looking good,same knee that was injured before.

What do you mean heartless,we still need a team

Tell you what kirsty,thisl get your blood going,upgrade Butcher,puy Key at no 3 then we could replace Giles.

Seriously who will be captain,Scot reckons it has to be Tresco,not so sure he has just got a bit of batting form,last thing he needs is the pressure of being captainIts gota be Nasa,he's done it afore.

Poor chap might play yet,dont know how bad it is.....

Oh it sounds worse and worse - poor lad! Nothing wrong with showing a bit of compassion, though ernest, even if we do still have to worry about the team...it makes me wince thinking about it...

But a thought for the team..

I'd get Strauss in to open with Tres, that's the way to go...leave Key out of it!! Otherwise Butcher can open with Tres and (yawn) Collingwood can bat ahead of Freddie. I suspect that thy'll go for the latter - BORING!!

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

Oh it sounds worse and worse - poor lad! Nothing wrong with showing a bit of compassion,


I'd get Strauss in to open with Tres, that's the way to go...leave Key out of it!! Otherwise Butcher can open with Tres and (yawn) Collingwood can bat ahead of Freddie. I suspect that thy'll go for the latter - BORING!!

I dont like either option,Michael can sure pick his time,Strauss opening with Tresco,has to be,I have yet to convinced about Collingwood as a Test player.i know Butcher used to open,but I think he has settled at no 3,and it would mean possitional changes as well.

Your right kirsty nothing wrong with a bit off compassion,come Friday you will have your eyes glued to the telly,thadl cheer u up.
I did not mention Key,what did you just say?

[Kirsty Harris]

Originally Posted by ernest

I dont like either option,Michael can sure pick his time,Strauss opening with Tresco,has to be,I have yet to convinced about Collingwood as a Test player.i know Butcher used to open,but I think he has settled at no 3,and it would mean possitional changes as well.

Your right kirsty nothing wrong with a bit off compassion,come Friday you will have your eyes glued to the telly,thadl cheer u up.
I did not mention Key,what did you just say?

Come Friday I shall be in the Grand Stand at Lords... even better!!

Yep, it's not the best time - but lets face it, there is never a good time to lose your captin. Just hope it isn't a career-threatening injury

Speaking of captincy, in some ways I think Tres should captin the side, it'll be another slap in the chops if he isn't...still with some pressure on his form with the bat I can't help thinking Hussain might be the person to have as captin...not got much to lose if it doesn't go well!

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

Come Friday I shall be in the Grand Stand at Lords... even better!!

Yep, it's not the best time - but lets face it, there is never a good time to lose your captin. Just hope it isn't a career-threatening injury

Speaking of captincy, in some ways I think Tres should captin the side, it'll be another slap in the chops if he isn't...still with some pressure on his form with the bat I can't help thinking Hussain might be the person to have as captin...not got much to lose if it doesn't go well!

Lucky you,I am not going to say "hope you enjoy it"you will I know what you mean over Tresco,he probably will be captain,tell yu what Kirsty,I bet you agree,he would rather score a big100.i think Tresco will be back to his best this year.

Think vaughan ul be ok,hope so.

[Kirsty Harris]

Originally Posted by ernest

I know what you mean over Tresco,he probably will be captain,tell yu what Kirsty,I bet you agree,he would rather score a big100.

Definately!! I think pretty much all England fans would!!

[sostenurter]

Originally Posted by Kirsty Harris

I just heard what happened to Vaughan today..looks and sounds very nasty. I hope it's not as bad as it looks .

You are a heartless lot, by the way...all you seem bothered about is who will take his place in the side...not much smypathey for the poor man...

Hey, I'm not heartless! I feel really bad for Vaughan - the injury sounds horrible! Just being pragmatic about wondering who will replace him.

I too think it'll be a kick in the teeth if Tres doesn't captain the side. I think Tres was treated pretty harshly in not getting the captaincy in the first place. He was vice-captain under Nasser, he was clearly being groomed for the role, and Vaughan had a good batting season and overtook him. Fine if you think that the captaincy should go to the best batsman - Vaughan is obviously the best batsman - but not if you think that the captaincy should go to someone who has been prepared for it and who has some idea of what is to come. The other ridiculous thing is that Vaughan was first of all given the ODI captaincy, when his place in the ODI side wasn't certain, and he'd never shown much aptitude for it. So effectively he was given the ODI captaincy on the basis of being a England's best test batsman. Ridiculous.


I don't think its surprising that Vaughan's batting has suffered - the captaincy was thrown on him as a bolt from the blue. In the circumstances, I think he's coped very well. Don't get me wrong, I think that he looks like being an excellent captain, and I think his batting form will return (hopefully this series) I just think the process of awarding him the captaincy was pretty slapdash.