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Old 05-01-2005, 10:07 PM
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Thumbs down Flintoff Injured.

According to a BBC report click here Freddie Flintoff has an injury to his side, in fact he was only able to do 45 minutes training this morning.
No wonder he could not bat like he should.

Thing is though he has been one of Englands best bowlers on this South African tour, he has bowled a lot of economical overs, and has taken 6 wickets this match.

If he is out for the rest of the series, and he is having Tests tomorrow, who have we got to replace him, anyone know?, because I don't.

It's not like we have riches in our batting, another worry, is Michael Vaughans contributions to date click here , anyone think we have a chance of winning this series?.

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Old 05-01-2005, 10:26 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Flintoff Injured."
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When things go wrong...why do they always all go wrong at the same time...?

Hopefully, he won't be out of the series. Get well soon Freddie!!!!

Micheal Vaughan will come good soon, he's too good a player to remain out of form forever.

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Old 05-01-2005, 10:35 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Flintoff Injured."
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If he is out for the rest of the series, and he is having Tests tomorrow, who have we got to replace him, anyone know?, because I don't.
Collingwood was brought on the tour to replace Flintoff. The selectors would have no choice but to play him. Not that he in anyway covers for Freddie. With Harmison out of form, England would be very light in bowling.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:40 PM in reply to Zainub's post starting "When things go wrong...why do they..."
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Micheal Vaughan will come good soon, he's too good a player to remain out of form forever.
Well I hope so Zainub, we are as NTG says light on the bowling, so about time for vaughan to perform.
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Collingwood was brought on the tour to replace Flintoff. The selectors would have no choice but to play him. Not that he in anyway covers for Freddie. With Harmison out of form, England would be very light in bowling.
Well this is true, unless they decided to play Anderson (who has not bowled for ages), Collingwood is Ok along with Flintoff, but not instead of, as you say.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:32 AM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Well I hope so Zainub, we are as NTG..."
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Apparently Hoggard can't bowl at the moment with a bruised heel, and Freddie is off for an X-Ray to see if he's out for the rest of the series.

Gets better and better
Pete,
It's getting like that ill fated to Australia last time, when jones and Flintoff were injured.not looking good.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:39 AM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Pete, It's getting like that ill fated..."
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It's getting like that ill fated to Australia last time, when jones and Flintoff were injured.not looking good.
Losing hope this early Erne?
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:57 AM in reply to Zainub's post starting "Losing hope this early Erne?"
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Losing hope this early Erne?
If Hoggard and Flintoff are ruled out of the next Test, I have always said, we have no depth to our bowling click here ,
I am the boards greatest optimist, but I can't see match fit replacments.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:23 AM in reply to Ernest's post "Flintoff Injured."
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Anyone think we have a chance of winning this series?
Heck, yes! We are 1-0 up. The worst we can be at the end of today is level with two to play. There is no doubt in my mind: this series is still there for England to win. As long as the team believes that - and they have six days to get themselves into that frame of mind once the present game is over - we should come through. We can't allow ourselves to contemplate defeat this early because one of our players has picked up an injury. (This is not to downplay any of your concerns, Ern, which mostly arise from the fact that the injured player is making a great contribution with the ball at the moment while others who are paid to do so are not, but simply to emphasise what we all know: cricket is as much a mind game as anything else.)

If Flintoff does have to come home, he should immediately get himself fixed up. Did he ever have that bone spur sorted out? I think not. Now's the time. We can probably do without him against Bangladesh, but we need him back on the field when the Aussies turn up at Lord's on 21 July.

One other thing occurs to me. Cape Town is a nice place to spend a few days, and Johannesburg isn't. But that's just tough for the guys who are out there doing a job. I hope that the team will be on tonight's flight to Johannesburg so that they can start training at altitude tomorrow. At 5,000 feet above sea level, physical exertion in Johannesburg really is a different proposition from exercise down in Cape Town. You also can't rely on getting five full days in there at the this time of year - January being slap in the middle of the wet season for that part of Africa and sunset being almost an hour earlier there than in Cape Town (I think the games start only 30 minutes earlier in Johannesburg, so the light issue can come into play as well). Thus England should be training and aiming for a result in three and a half to four days.

We could (and should) have an unassailable position after the Johannesburg test.
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Old 06-01-2005, 10:06 AM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Pete, It's getting like that ill fated..."
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It's Ok well just beat you by 400 instead of 300 runs.
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Old 06-01-2005, 10:15 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "It's Ok well just beat you by 400..."
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Sky have confirmed that its a minor tear and he should be fit for Joberg.

Although you after wonder why he is bowling so many overs after the Eng camp were hoping to limit him to around 12-14 overs per day last year.
 


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