Caddick Praises Hoggard

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by R W S

Where are you getting this 'political' impression from Ern? I don't follow you. I don't think Anderson has been mistreated by the England selectors.

Politics with a small (p) RW.

Well Nassa wanted him, Vaughan does not, that is as political as the Jones/Read affair, a trait Vaughan and Fletcher may wish to address.
Hoggard is doing fine now, and good luck to him, he was due some real form, not long ago the knives were out for Hoggard.

If England don't want to play Anderson, they should release him, instead of "mistreating him" by making him no more than a professional tea boy, who gets to play "no" cricket.

It is a fact RW, that prior to the 4th Test against South Africa Anderson had bowled only 210 overs for England in over 12 months, and that counts ODIs.

That IMHO is why he has been mistreated, and has lost all match fitness, and his confidence has gone.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Ernest

If England don't want to play Anderson, they should release him, instead of "mistreating him" by making him no more than a professional tea boy, who gets to play "no" cricket.

They do release him, the England camp have said they've only pulled him out of one County game. So it looks like Lancashire are the ones who don't want him.

[Zainub]

I don't think he has been as mistreated by the selectors as he is been by his skippers, Nass over bowled him, Vaughan under bowles him

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Pete

So it looks like Lancashire are the ones who don't want him.

Yes but if he is in the England squad, he is unavailable to play for Lancashire, they may have only pulled him out of one, but that is a different matter.
Has not Anderson got an England central contract?.

Originally Posted by Zainub Razvi 35033

I don't think he has been as mistreated by the selectors as he is been by his skippers, Nass over bowled him, Vaughan under bowles him

I take your point Zainub, but when on tour Vaughan and Fletcher are the selectors, so I am being general, just like the Read/Jones fiasco was down to Vaughan and Fletcher.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Ernest

Yes but if he is in the England squad, he is unavailable to play for Lancashire, they may have only pulled him out of one, but that is a different matter.

Yeah, but surely they'd send him back?

[Ernest]

Pete,
I don't think Anderson has anything to prove to anyone, look at his stats, read his profile here ,

With a strike rate of 55 in Test Cricket, and a strike rate of 43 in first class cricket, why would Lancashire not want him?.

[Glamorgan Wanderer]

Ern, we've been through this before. Anderson hasn't been passed over for political reasons. He has been in an out of the side because his performances at Test match level have never been anything to write home about.

[Andy Mellon]

Originally Posted by flanflinger

True, I must admit for the Aussies I might be tempted to go with Caddick over David Harrison, Jon Lewis, Sajid Mahmood or Kabir Ali.
However, I still feel selecting Caddick would be a backward step and would go against the recent selction policy. I would prefer to see Saggers or Johnson though, if we did need a short-term replacement.

I don't really see selecting Johnson or Saggers as much better than selecting Caddick. Johnson looked decent in his games vs. Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and is certainly pretty useful with the bat as well - however, he's one of the most injury prone bowlers around, and if he didn't have such problems he'd have a lot more caps now than he has got. Saggers looks nothing better than ordinary when I've seen him bowl and I think that the other alternatives should be given a chance ahead of him. Mahmood needs to play more first class cricket before being considered for the test side - he hardly set the County Championship alight this season; so I'd be tempted to go for Harrison or Kabir Ali from your selection - though Jon Lewis should be more than useful in English conditions.

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by Andy Mellon

Mahmood needs to play more first class cricket before being considered for the test side - he hardly set the County Championship alight this season; so I'd be tempted to go for Harrison or Kabir Ali from your selection - though Jon Lewis should be more than useful in English conditions.

Andy,

I would also go with those guys before Caddick, Saggers and Johnson. It's just, if there was an injury during the Ashes. I would be less inclined to go with a younger and in-experinced player, because it might just destroy them. Caddick might relish the challenge, as might Saggers and Johnson, and if they fail and get carted all round the park, there is no long-term damage.

But can you imagine chuking in Harrison, against Langer, Hayden, Ponting, Martyn et al. It could do more harm than good

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by Glamorgan Wanderer

Anderson hasn't been passed over for political reasons.

Ern,

I can guarantee that most of the posters on this board would love to see Anderson bowling well. We all know that you want him to succed, but I think, like GW, you are reading too much into his lack of selection.

I look at his situation, and thing it is similar to the one Brett Lee finds himself in. He has for the last six months been the extra bowler, and the twelth man. Is his lack of selection "Political" no.. it's just the case that someone has to miss out.

I do not feel that coaching has ruined him, or that his has been mis-treated or excluded for non-Cricketing reasons. I just feel that he has not grabbed hold of the chance he has been given and has not yet made a case for regular inclusion.