Fifth Test, Centurion. South Africa v England Day 1.

[Beny]

in the 9 matches of the 2004/05 season he has played. He has averaged.... you might want to sit down... 19.51. (his batting average has improved too!)

Did you read this one?

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Ernest

No Beny, cant get away with this on, we had a bowler Devon Malcolm who ripped the heart out of South Africa, when they were good, he took 9 for not that bad in the 2nd innings to win us the game, not long after dropped.

Umm, there's just a slight difference in class between Glenn and Devon..

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Beny

Did you read this one?

Only a nine match period Beny, he is having an Indian summer.Fuuny thig is, Hoggies batting has improved as well.

What I am saying is that McGrath is not like he was when he was younger, a long way from saying he is no good, and I agree it is a good average, but what you do with a player like that, is wait until he has been changed, see him off, don't take liberties.

Originally Posted by Pete 35470

Umm, there's just a slight difference in class between Glenn and Devon..

Not on that day Pete, did you see those 9 wickets, no bowler in the world could it better on the day, never got the same chances as McGrath.

[Beny]

So what you're saying is dont score off him and hope he dosent take wickets... Sounds like Glenn's gona have a good Ashes!!

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Ernest

Not on that day Pete, did you see those 9 wickets, no bowler in the world could it better on the day, never got the same chances as McGrath.

Exactly, On that day. Malcom didn't have any other days.. Glenn McGrath has been a consistant world class performer for years.

[Trescothick]

I think Strauss prefers all the attention on him and so did that on purpose knowing Tresco is so unselfish to run back. Strauss made a poor decision and should ahve continued running to take the punishment. We would also be much better off right now because he was freescoring while strauss was struggling.

Just as Tresco was improving his average and showing England have a real challenge for Ashes, this happens. Im annoyed.

[Paoli]

Dunno how u can ever class DeVon Malcolm and Glenn Donald McGrath in the same breath. I don't think McGrath will be dropped. He'd have to go through the NZ and Ashes tours wicketless to be dropped.

[John]

Mcgrath still looks a great performer. But England have got a good batting lineup. This is going to be a test for Mcgrath. This reminds me of WI four years ago when a ageing Walsh and Ambrose came to England. The difference being Mcgrath has other bowlers to back him up Walsh and Ambrose had no back up.

[cantplaycantalk]

With respect to Pakistan they have a batting line up equivalent to the Indian bowling attack.
Unless the Pakistan bowlers blow the opposition away (not unusual with Shoaib and Sami) they are always likely to struggle.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Beny 35475

So what you're saying is dont score off him and hope he dosent take wickets... Sounds like Glenn's gona have a good Ashes!!

Block him out, score of only the ordinary deliveries, he will not be bowled in long spells.Fair Comment???

Originally Posted by Pete 35476

Exactly, On that day. Malcom didn't have any other days.. Glenn McGrath has been a consistant world class performer for years.

I was answering single point really of Beny, howerver he was no mug, with a decent strike rate, and exactly Pete McGrath has bee arround for years, my point about the coming series.

Originally Posted by Paoli69 35481

Dunno how u can ever class DeVon Malcolm and Glenn Donald McGrath in the same breath. I don't think McGrath will be dropped. He'd have to go through the NZ and Ashes tours wicketless to be dropped.

I don't suppose hw will be dropped, but I don't expect he will be the same Glen McGrath that had Atherton for his bunny, I am not saying Malcolm had the same class as mcGrath, but Beny quoted a 8 wicket haul from McGrath, and I quoted a 9 wicket haul from Malcolm.
Fair enough!!!