England Vs. South Africa A One Dayer

[Lee Johnson]

Surely thats putting too much pressure on our best one day batsmen though!?!

Actually Jones outscored most of the batsmen on the tour to Zimbabwe

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

I'd argue he for a one day blitz. Our ODI batting line up isnt the strongest in the world

[Notts Exile]

Apparently they've changed keepers after thirty overs.

[Lee Johnson]

30.1 Anderson to Dippenaar, wide: no run, great stop by Jones

Just for you NF

[Notts Exile]

Originally Posted by Lee Johnson

Just for you NF

First ball as well!! (or have you added that on ? it doesn't show on cricinfo!!!)

Whatever his merits as a Test batsman/keeper he has no rights to be in the ODI side. Mention all you like about his record against Zimbabwe and I'll point to Read's superior record at County One-Day level over the past few years- far more challenging than the Zimbos.

He's in because his face fits, not because he is any better. Even his Mum wouldn't try and claim otherwise !!

[Lee Johnson]

It's difficult to look at there domestic one day records due to the lack of domestic one day cricket Jones has played. I think the selectors were looking for a bit of continuity with there selection of Jones in One day side as well as the test team. I felt bad for read after his heroic effort against the west indies last Spring.

Plus i think your being a bit harsh on the Zimbo's, the standards not that much difference from the second division of the NCL which is where Read has had his chance to play .

P.S I know which division Jones will be in next year before you say anything.

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

If its ODIs your talking about NE, I'd back you on that. Read did all he was asked and chipped in with a few late runs. He's every right who feel hard done by in that case.

[Notts Exile]

Originally Posted by Lee Johnson

I think the selectors were looking for a bit of continuity with there selection of Jones in One day side as well as the test team.

That was the main reason given by David Graveney. Am I the only one who doesn't trust that man and believe much of what he says ?? If it were really true then the likes of Hoggard and S Jones would be ahead of Gough, Wharf and Kabir Ali in the One Day team. Oh ........... and Solanki would never ever get a game!

What with the number of matches these guys are expected to play nowadays I don't see any reason why the two teams shouldn't have a different wicketkeeper (or captain or anything else for that matter). The two forms of the game are different. Some players are better at one form than another. Continuity is just an excuse and that's how it was seen at the Trent Bridge Test the day the Nat West Series squad was announced!!

[Lee Johnson]

I can see your point and would be as equally annoyed if Read was to get called up in place of Jones. All Read can do is consistantly score runs at county level, he'll have the chance in Div 1 of both competitions next season to prove his worth.

[Occasional Fan]

Different competition: same irritating problem. England are about three overs behind the pace. This innings should have been over at 1600GMT. It's very easy in limited overs cricket to devise some draconian penalty for this - twice or three times the achieved over rate should be painful enough (would cost England 30 or 45 runs in this case).