Vaughan To Tame McGrath?...>

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by BBC

Vaughan was world number one after England's Ashes tour of 2002-03. Australian seamer Glenn McGrath named Vaughan as his target for that series but the Yorkshire batsman proved equal to the task on that occasion.

If the last series is anything to go by, McGrath has got a lot on his plate.

Michael Vaughan has not been in the best of touch since becoming Englands captain, however some of his best form has been against Australia.
The last time it was in the back yard of the Australians, this time it will be on vaughans own English turfs.

After the last series against England, at least as far as Vaughan is concerned, it is Glen McGrath who has something to prove.

Anyone thinks Vaughan is not up to the job?..

[Milo]

I seem to remember the McGrath v Vaughan competition was pretty equal last time. He got him both times in the first test (for 33 and 0), got him at the WACA for 34 and bowled him at the MCG. The second innings century Vaughan scored at the MCG was mainly at the expense of MacGill (who bowled 50 odd overs).

Vaughan had his successes, but McGrath has by no means 'something to prove'.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Milo

Vaughan had his successes, but McGrath has by no means 'something to prove'.

Yes this is my point Milo, I am not saying McGrath is rubbish, he is not.

What I am saying is that he is playable, vaughan held his own against him.

[Seamer]

McGrath is already one of the greats of test cricket and will go down in history as such
Vaughan, well, not even close to becoming one of the greats.
McGrath has absolutely nothing to prove

[yorkie]

Not even close? Well his captaincy record so far, makes him one player who will go in the history books, and this record i feel is only going to improve in future years. You may think i am biased, being a yorkie and all, but at the end of they day his captaincy record is brilliant, and in a few years this alone, will make him an english great.

[Milo]

If we get stuffed in the Ashes, his captaincy record over 12 months will be an historical irrelvance. Great teams, and therefore captains, can only secure their position in history by actually winning the things that matter.

I hope, by the time he retires, he (and the team) will have achieved this.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by yorkie

Not even close? Well his captaincy record so far, makes him one player who will go in the history books, and this record i feel is only going to improve in future years. You may think i am biased, being a yorkie and all, but at the end of they day his captaincy record is brilliant, and in a few years this alone, will make him an english great.

You are basing his captaincy record on his performance against the three lowest ranked teams after Bang/Zim. He has'nt captained against any of the big boys yet, save Sri Lanka, which England lost 1-0. His welcome to the real world will begin after the Bangledesh series. By the end of the ashes, dont be surprised if his scalp is nailed the door's of the English press editor's office alongside Gower, Atherton and Hussien's. Cricket followers outside England have not been fooled by his apparent good performances.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Seamer

Cricket followers outside England have not been fooled by his apparent good performances.

How can you have apparent good performances, either they are good or they are'nt.

Originally Posted by Seamer

You are basing his captaincy record on his performance against the three lowest ranked teams after Bang/Zim.

LOL I could not agree more, some of his better performances have been against Australia.

PS:Are the typhoon storms as bad as the news flashes said where going to happen in Queensland?.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by Ernest

How can you have apparent good performances, either they are good or they are'nt.

LOL I could not agree more, some of his better performances have been against Australia.

To the first Ern, While his performance APPARENTLY looks good, it does not look so formidable once you see who he has played against. The Bangledesh series will just add to this illusion.
To the second, his BATTING has been very good against us and there is no doubt he is a classy player. In fact, i am somewhat of a fan of Vaughan when it comes to batting. But i am referring purely to his captaincy

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by Ernest

PS:Are the typhoon storms as bad as the news flashes said where going to happen in Queensland?.

Has'nt hit yet but it looks like it will be the worst in a century. The north is in the process of evacuating on a scale not seen since the Japanese bombed Darwin. Won't personally affect me though as I live several thosand KM down the coast
Thanks for the concern