Vaughan

[Mark5dc]

Should Vaughan stay as England captian? If not who should replace him?

[Uham]

Well I think that Ashley Giles deserves a chance as captain of team England. I think he has the experince and Trescothick and Vaughn have failed the past couple of series. Ok maybe Tests it should be Vauhgn but I think Giles deserves a chance. He is a smart cricketer i think. And I want to see what hes got.

[Vrock]

Vaughan has been an incredibly successful captain with a very good england side, certainly in english conditions anyway. He isn't looking poor as a captain so there's no need to fix what ain't broke.

[greg]

Why would England want to change the most succesful captain in the last 25 years?

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[Victor Frankenstein]

I thought he had a poor tour of pakistan as far as captaincy went, he looked clueless most of the time and wasn't able to get any extra performance out of his players as he has done in previous series. However, that's one bad series out of the last 7 or 8 so i wouldn't say it was time to drop him yet. Dropping him because of his batting however....

[Vrock]

If he was in the side purely for batting I would have got rid of him a fair while ago, let him go back to play for Yorkshire and get some form seen as he never plays for them. But he brings too much to the side with his captaincy so it looks unlikely for now.

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

Its a slightly misleading thread titel this. For the tests its a no brainer, his captaincy is top notch, and he can still turn it on (very rarely - once a series) with the bat. However in the ODI arena, , cant field very well, rarely bowls himself and has a very very poor batting average and doesnt seem to make much in the way of decent captaining decisions.

So if this thread was called, "Should Vaughan remain captain of the ODI side" I would vote absolutely not and give it tresco, or freddie.

[Ernest]

The difference between Vaughan and Hussain,and Atherton is that Vaughan has had the best pace attack for decades, so it is not surprising he has had so much success.

Put it this way, had he decided not to play for all the good his batting has done England - England would have had the same success I reckon with ust 10 men.

Is he fallable as Captain?, of couse he is, in that ICC champion trophy last year, he fiddled while Rome burned in the final, he just let England drift to defeat when not neading to take many WI wickets.

He never tried spin, might not have worked but everyone else bar Vaughan new England was sliding slowley to defeat.

He has had success no denying that, however he has had arguable the best all rounder ever at his disposal, and the best attack in the world at this moment in time.

Other captains such as Hussain with his disapline, and a hard captain like Atherton I reckon would have done just as well as Vaughan, but the team would have been stronger for their battting contributions, England could well have won at Multan and gone on all the way.

[greg]

Ernest you say that England would be better with Hussain or Atherton in the batting line up instead of Vaughan but Vaughan has a far better record than either Hussain and Atherton who both average under 40 which isn't good enough.At least Vaughan averages over 40 and scores his hundreds more often as well.

[Ernest]

Vaughan has had the best set of England bowlers for decades, that's a big help as captain.

He as an average over 40 fair enough, but long gone are the days when he was world no1, he has gradually ground to a halt run wise..
Atherton and Hussain may well have averages just under 40, but I doubt they never had a bad spell to = Vaughans.
He did not hold the team together after the Ashes, and allowed the pakistan to be an anti climax after the Ashes win, a keen witted captain would have anticipated that.

The team have carried him, and I should think it easy to captain a side with Harmison-Jones-Flintoff and Harmison at his disposal.