New England Vice-Captain?

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by flanflinger

Maybe before the management comes to their senses, Flintoff needs to, and that means knuckling down, scoring some runs and taking wickets, not getting legless and nearly drowning.

It's just come over TMS -"Flintoff was never in danger" - because a pedalo and water were involved, the press used some poetic licence it seems .

Originally Posted by greg

If Vaughan gets injured then his replacement in the team will almost certainly be Strauss,seeing as Strauss has done a good job previously

Now that would be an injustice - Strauss has done nothing special, but more important he is badly out of form at the moment.

[greg]

Originally Posted by Ernest

Now that would be an injustice - Strauss has done nothing special, but more important he is badly out of form at the moment.

Better to have someone in the job who knows it than give it to an idiot or a new person.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by greg

Better to have someone in the job who knows it than give it to an idiot or a new person.

Well jardine was a new person when he was given the England captaincy - so was Gatting, Gooch, Vaughan or Flintoff.
It's no good giving the captaincy to a man who knows it, but could not hit a soccer ball with a bat at the moment, better Collingwood or the experienced Nixon got to be the new vice captain.

[Nostromo]

Paul Collingwood, without a doubt. He is a decent guy, a strong character and useful contributor in both forms of the game with the bat and occasionally the ball. As Vice-Captain, he will be on trial as a future captain and this will be good for Collingwood. He is the sort of man who'll command respect from teammates and is likely to perform better as a leader than wilt under the strain.

[Moss]

Bell is too new, and I don't think he could handle the perceived burden of responsibility.
If Strauss was playing in the ODI squad, I would plump for him, but in his absence, I think Collingwood is an intelligent cricketer, certainly in the field.
As a Test cricketer, definitely Strauss.

Not Pietersen - is he really a team player and a skilled man manager?

Not Flintoff - his captaincy has been of a poor quality apart from India, and after this incident, he shouldn't be allowed near the post again, at least not before some serious change of attitude.

[Nostromo]

Originally Posted by Moss

Not Pietersen - is he really a team player and a skilled man manager?

The only thing that Pietersen would know about being vice-captain is how to spell it, if that.

[Quagmire]

Strauss should get the nod but Collingwood would be alright as well, Pietersen should never ever be given any sort of captaincy he firstly acts like he is bigger than English cricket and secondly I don't think his cricket brain is anywhere as good as Strauss or Collingwood or even Bell.The only two reasons why Strauss might not get the captaincy would be because he is not in great form and I think that the English selectors do not want another South African to be captain of England thats why Flintoff got the job for the Ashes over Strauss even though Strauss was more fit for the job. Strauss has captained England before but English would rather someone who was English born and breed. It sounds a little silly but I think that every other country would pick someone who was born in there country to be captain. I could not imagine India having a Pakistani captaining the international cricket side.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Strauss should get the nod but Collingwood would be alright as well

Problem with Strauss is that when Trescothick went home, Strauss went po peices form wise, but if Trescothick comes back - then he (not Strauss) should be made captain.

Collingwood is the pick of the bunch - but really can you see any other candidate in the team?, Mahmood or Plunkett - Bell or Anderson - I think not.

Strange point about Flintoff being sacked as vice captain by Fletcher and Vaughan - it was in the same West Indies in 2004, that Fletcher and Vaughan got rid of Read for G O Jones.

Now Read has got his place back - because no other keeper in England is suitable, have England got a better vice captain than Flintoff? - G O Jones maybe?.
Or will the selectors do a U turn like with Read?.

[Quagmire]

Yes Flintoff is a good player but he is a poor captain, during the test series when the games were slipping away he did nothing. I remember during Symonds and Hayden's big parternship at the MCG Flintoff did nothing to try to get his team going Strauss was the one who was running around the field from slip playing one two around the field and talking and encouraging his team, Flintoffs head was looking down at his shoe laces. Also Flintoffs fielding positions were very negative once the Australians got on top

[Nostromo]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Pietersen should never ever be given any sort of captaincy he firstly acts like he is bigger than English cricket and secondly I don't think his cricket brain is anywhere as good as Strauss or Collingwood or even Bell.

You have the advantage over me there, sir. I was not aware that KP had one.