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Exclamation Captain Michael Vaughan says he will not retire from one-day cricket!

This is in sharp contrast to Nottts Exiles thread on Fletcher - who is going to quit.Link to the Notts Exile thread here

Michael Vaughan says he is not going to quite from ONE DAY, or anf form of cricket click here

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Captain Michael Vaughan says he will not retire from one-day cricket despite seeing England exit the World Cup after a nine-wicket loss to South Africa.

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But I still believe I'm a very good captain - I'm not retiring.
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Vaughan, 32, has scored just 130 runs in nine innings at the World Cup and has yet to score a one-day century
Michael Vaughan has been a good Test captain, even though his form had tailed off, but his captaincy in the one day game to put it kindly - has not been good.

If Fletcher is going, Should Vaughan at least give up the captaincy of the England one day side?.

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Old 19-04-2007, 04:20 PM in reply to Ernest's post "Captain Michael Vaughan says he will..."
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He must be stupid or something. Can't he realise that his position in the one day setup is not needed?
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I don't think he's stupid, but I do think this is a misguided comment. On the other hand, when Vaughan said it Fletcher was still in place. Listening to Jonathan Agnew on the BBC website at the moment, and he is suggesting that the decision to announce Fletcher's departure was only taken late last evening Barbados time. Vaughan might well want to re-consider his position now the coach has made it clear that he is off on Sunday. I fear that, if Vaughan does not stand down now, at least in the ODI format, he might find himself swept aside by a new broom. Somehow I can't believe that this is the last we will be hearing on this, and maybe not even the last thing this weekend.
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Vaughan is staying to look for more positives in English cricket. He has been finding them all over the place in the Caribbean, even if he could not find runs. In fact, he is in danger of being charged for excess baggage if he returns to the UK with all those positives that he has collected.
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Vaughan will be dropped from the one day side and they will eventually announce his retirement from one day cricket in the hope of prolonging his career as test captain.

That is my guess anyway.
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What annoys me is Vaughan deluding himself that he deserves a place in the ODI side on his captaincy alone. Maybe England could afford to bat effectively a man short (which they have been doing these past two months) if his captaincy in ODI's was outstanding rather than what it is - uninspiring. My guess is, whoever becomes the next England coach (and new selectors if Graveney and Miller get the bullet) will drop him from the ODI set up like Steve McClaren dropped Beckham when he took over the England football manager's position. The alternative would be constant pressure from the media to axe him. Vaughan might even get dropped from the test side if his form doesnt improve and the new coach is of the opinion that players get selected on current form rather than past glories. Interesting times ahead, methinks.
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Vaughan should go altogether, he's a weak link in both forms of the game. With a new coach we should have a new regime altogether.

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What annoys me is Vaughan deluding himself that he deserves a place in the ODI side on his captaincy alone. Maybe England could afford to bat effectively a man short (which they have been doing these past two months) if his captaincy in ODI's was outstanding rather than what it is - uninspiring.

I agree with that completely.
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Old 19-04-2007, 08:56 PM in reply to greg's post starting "Vaughan will be dropped from the one..."
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Vaughan will be dropped from the one day side and they will eventually announce his retirement from one day cricket in the hope of prolonging his career as test captain.
Well that would be unique for England if that happened. But I don't think it will, because IMO if vaughan was dropped from the one day side, the selectors would fear he would retire as captain of the Test side.
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I'm with Greg. Either Michael Vaughan retires from ODIs or he will be fired from them. There are no other options. If he's not man enough to take one of those options without spitting the dummy and retiring from test cricket in a huff, he's not man enough to be captain in either form of the game and should go anyway. I think, given time to reflect, (and he's got about a fortnight), he'll realise that he's through as a one day player but that he is still the only captain we have for tests and a bloody good one at that. And he should be proud enough to continue wearing the whites while he's fit enough.
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