This is plainly NOT fair!!!!

[Collyisamackem]

For those of you determined that Vaughan said something he didn't, he has answered the criticism today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/6725917.stm

Calm yourselves(or is that just self? ) down with this and keep your undies on (!):

Originally Posted by Michael Vaughan

"It's a bit baffling. It's a great story but the reaction has been amazing. If anyone is to blame for the World Cup it was me, not Andrew."

[Teatime FatCat]

Colly, I reserve the right to have my undies off if I see fit!

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by MPV

It's a bit baffling. It's a great story but the reaction has been amazing. If anyone is to blame for the World Cup it was me, not Andrew.

A point that if anyone bothered to read the original article, rather than the made up headline, they would have seen in black and white

Originally Posted by MPV

In the World Cup I was more tense than I've ever been as a captain. Duncan [Fletcher] was more tense than he'd ever been as a coach. And sometimes the captain and coach have to look at the way they're acting because the team follows. I didn't captain as well as I should've done because of the pressure I put myself under. I'd openly admit that. But I couldn't switch off because away from the field there was so much going on - with Bob Woolmer and Fred-alo.

Maybe his use of the word Fredalo was naive, but apart from that Vaughan clearly blames they way he reacted, as the problem.

If anything Anti-Vaughan people on here should have jumped on that and said that if it was his fault, he should resign... but most of the anti-Vaughan people here couldn't get past the Fredalo comment, which was also picked up by the Myopic headline writers.

[Occasional Fan]

Originally Posted by flanflinger

... the Myopic headline writers.

Now, now, FF: the subs are only doing their job - and arguably here they have done a good one. The subs' job is to stick a headline on the article which will encourage people to read it. It seems that people have done so in this case, so that's a success. You can't blame the sub if the journalist's copy is incomprehensible or if the readership doesn't understand the copy.

[Wanderer]

I thought this was the way Vaughan would respond...

Fact is, what was printed, was printed. Worldwide. "Vaughan blames Flintoff"..."Vaughan points finger at Flintoff"...Were some of the headlines from India to Australia.

Like I said before, he should perhaps not have mentioned THAT incident at all.

Originally Posted by OF

You can't blame the sub if the journalist's copy is incomprehensible or if the readership doesn't understand the copy.

Exacterly!

[flanflinger]

OF,

You are right they did a great job, they successfully made a nothing story into one that has got cricket pundits, fans and even County chairmen buzzing.

Just wish a few people had bothered to read the story, and tried to understand how the headline makers work, before getting their Knickers in a twist, over to you TTFC

[Collyisamackem]

Originally Posted by Teatime FatCat

Colly, I reserve the right to have my undies off if I see fit!

That'll be quite enough of that on here sir!!!

Wanderer - you seem to be influenced by the headline/story writers and not Vaughan himself. How can Vaughan be blamed for headlines? "What was printed was printed" by other people over whom Vaughan has no influence! He responded that way, and you were right to expect him to do so, because that is clearly his position which he needed to state as a result of woefully inaccurate journalism.

How many times have we seen nothing comments be turned into something they really don't mean worldwide? Nowhere did Vaughan make Flintoff a scapegoat, noting here also that he referred to the 'Fredalo incident' which involved a number of players and staff and was named 'Fredalo' by the media, and at the same time he criticised himself. The incident did happen whilst Vaughan was captaining at the WC, so why shouldn't he mention it?

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

Ern I find it impossible to believe that freddie wont run in as hard while vaughan is captain because of this. If thats the case he shouldnt be playing full stop. And lets be honest, if fred wasnt ********** up on a pedelo at 4am this wouldnt be an issue at all. Its all been blown up by clever journalism and poor work from vaughan.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Richie Benauds Love Child

Ern I find it impossible to believe that freddie wont run in as hard while vaughan is captain because of this.

Well he may well - but there must be some bad feeling IMO.

Originally Posted by Richie Benauds Love Child

If thats the case he shouldnt be playing full stop. And lets be honest, if fred wasnt ********** up on a pedelo at 4am this wouldnt be an issue at all. Its all been blown up by clever journalism and poor work from vaughan.

That's true Rich - but something has been said for the press to overreact to, Fred was on a pedalo was punished and that should have been an end to it.

Originally Posted by flanflinger-quoting Vaughan

It's a bit baffling. It's a great story but the reaction has been amazing. If anyone is to blame for the World Cup it was me, not Andrew.

FF - I did not think you would fall for that - he is squirming because of the aftermath, FF should vaughan have let the pedalo incident drop?, and what was the point of bringing it up?, and would he not be better trying to keep team moral as high as he can - before England meet a strong side?.

Rich is right it is "clever journalism", but even that needs a kick start.

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by Ernest

FF should vaughan have let the pedalo incident drop?, and what was the point of bringing it up?, and would he not be better trying to keep team moral as high as he can - before England meet a strong side?.

Probably he should have stayed well away, but if he was being asked a direct question, "what was the result on morale after the Fredalo incident?", he would have been foolish to have denied it had no effect. But as has been stated the incident was more than just one person, and Vaughan clearly stated later in the interview, and today, that if anyone was to blame - he was!!

At no point does he single out Freddie, apart from the fact that his name is synonymous with that particular incident.

As it is Vaughan denied that he ever used the Fredalo word:-

Originally Posted by MPV

I never used the word 'Fredalo', as soon as you mention that, you are pinpointing one person. I'll be having dinner with him in an hour's time. It [the article] has been blown out of all proportion. One word changed the whole context of the article, a word which I didn't say.