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Old 10-05-2005, 09:49 AM in reply to Zainub's post starting "Very cute Avatar Sir Adrian, and I..."
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Contests over series???

I think perhaps the best way of doing thingss to have each match as a seperate contest. This gives players a chance to change their substitutes/teams andto rectify errors . Most Odi seriries are ful of team changes , as are test match series. I think i can still keep track of who the best manager is by using the listing

http://www.world-a-team.com/fantasy-...agerstatistics here.

I'll run the WI V SA as is now, there are still 3 matches to be played, but in future the best way I think is to have a contest for each Individual ODI instead of series as this allows more flexibility. Also , Within series, there is nothing to stop people editing their teams , which could lead to goodness only what permutations. I've just played with swapping devilliers and dippenaar for example and found that I would be second if I did so. It would be better for me if I 'd have run the contest on the individual match basis. That way I could for the third match chuck out De Villiars and have dippenaar, whereas I'm stuck with him now. It also allows the creator to rectify any silly mistakes in series(like Powell as a batsmen....) and to change the player listings as new players enter. I think this then is perhaps the best way forward. Please excuse the teething problems...
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:23 AM in reply to Richard Jenkins's post "Contests over series???"
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I can't edit my team, Richard. Maybe you can as game creator, but for other entrants it seems that, once the closing date has arrived, the teams are set in stone (as they should be).
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:33 AM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "I can't edit my team, Richard. Maybe..."
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OK . So Only a creator can edit a game. That seems more reasonable I suppose. Should I be allowed to edit teams if people ask? (I.E do we allow substitutions, bearing in mind that if I change a player his /her previous scores are entered ?)

Is it just too confusing to score each ODI as a seperate thing for managers? Would people be put off with always picking teams or is that half the fun? In form players could be aded with ease within a series. Or is that the master tactition's job, to predict who will be the 'inform' player throughout the series' and go with that. The other alternative is to keep the closure date open until after the second ODI in a series of 5 and then score, giving people a chance to change etc, but not to completly change, allowing some skill and luck. Scoring wouldn't be too much of a problem if only 1 or 2 odi's had been played. Tests would /could be the same idea? but after the first test has finished ? The other problem is with injuries.

Lots of questions there. Any ideas?


Ernests team is unusual..... It's very tempting to edit it. But then it wouldn't be Ernests team any more would it!
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:07 AM in reply to Richard Jenkins's post starting "OK . So Only a creator can edit a game...."
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I'll stick with the comments I made above - link here. You could go match by match, but I for one would not have time to enter a series event that way. But you're not running this for me, Richard: you're running it for everyone, so let's hear from a few more people on this.
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:36 AM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "I'll stick with the comments I made..."
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Ok. At he end of the series I'll look at everyone's players and if a player didn't score a point because he didn't play I'll PM the manager and ask if they want the player to be changed. The change has to come from the reserve list of players. If he played and didn't score points then tough. This way if a player gets injured at the beginning of a series and never plays you can substitute him. And it forces you to think about the reserves you choose. If there are more players to change than reserves to use, I'll use the maximum of reserves for those players and include all the options/permutations in the PM.

If a player is injured during a series, and scores I think the solution is to treat the reserves as ' subs' and to allow some changes in case of injury. Be aware though that if your player scores 300 runs and then gets injured and you replace him with a supersub and he scores -300 it'd be the minus 300 that is scored and NOT the 300. And I wont swap them back!! I would not allow any subs after the last match of a ODI /test series or during play of a ODI/test match.

Imagine your team has an injury after one match and you want to change him. Fair enough. But if the injured player comes back I wouldn't re-change. And you have to choose a sub carefully cos it'll be that player who scores from then on and the points for the injured player will dissapear.

I wouldn't sub anyone cos they played badly. That's bad selection. And bad managment by the manager.
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Agree with you there jenko. One or tow of my players have done badly, (tough ****) one or two havent been selected (I think one isnt even in the squad !). If I can change them great. But rather than you (or any other creator) doing it, can it be done by the manger a la Daily telegraph fantsy contest ?? Obviously you arent the one to answer this, but is mike or siradrian could it might be helpful ?
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:49 PM in reply to Pete's post starting "Daren Powell is a bowler too, he been..."
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Also , Within series, there is nothing to stop people editing their teams , which could lead to goodness only what permutations. I've just played with swapping devilliers and dippenaar for example and found that I would be second if I did so.
Managers can't edit their teams after the cut-off date. The Creator can because he has to swap-in reserves in the Managers teams where necessary.
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Should I be allowed to edit teams if people ask? (I.E do we allow substitutions, bearing in mind that if I change a player his /her previous scores are entered ?)
No, the Creator should only edit a Manager's team to swap-in a reserve because the main player didn't play in any of the matches. I suggest to swap-in reserves at the end of the series when you know for certain which players didn't play at all.
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Is it just too confusing to score each ODI as a seperate thing for managers? Would people be put off with always picking teams or is that half the fun?
Perhaps a series could be split in two but more than that would be a pain. I don't agree with a new game per match because a player can have a bad one and that defeats the purpose of the game - to select the most consistent players in a series.
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Ok. At he end of the series I'll look at everyone's players and if a player didn't score a point because he didn't play I'll PM the manager and ask if they want the player to be changed.
No need to waste time PMing people just go ahead and swap-in the reserve.
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But rather than you (or any other creator) doing it, can it be done by the manger a la Daily telegraph fantsy contest ??
If some of your players didn't play at all in the series the creator should swap-in your reserves as a matter of course - that's why I included the reserves in the game design.
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Old 10-05-2005, 12:55 PM in reply to Pete's post starting "Daren Powell is a bowler too, he been..."
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if you've poicked a player not in the squad I've tried to pm you with a choice. if I've missed a player out let me know!!

Dwight Washington
Fidel Edwards
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Are in varooius peopels teams. As they wont score, you may change them. But pm me to let me know.
Hey, not fair! Everyone had a chance to edit their team before the cut-off date. They have selected reserves to swap-in if their main players don't play a game. The creator should choose the reserves to swap-in starting with reserve #1 if available and so-on.
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Hey, not fair! Everyone had a chance to edit their team before the cut-off date. They have selected reserves to swap-in if their main players don't play a game. The creator should choose the reserves to swap-in starting with reserve #1 if available and so-on.
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Dwight Washington
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aren't in a squad and won't score any points. So I'll change them. I'll use the reserves the manager picked and pm them with the choices. in many cases the reserves aren't in the squad also; In one case one manager picked a player who isn't in the squad to recieve bonus points. I've had to change this to 'none seected' as i don't think it fair otherwise. Bear in mind this was everyone's real first stab at the contest. One player has reserves which aren't in the squad at all. hence the thread so you want to be a creator. If i wait until the end of the contest peple would just pick the best player, at least now they have 3 matches to have a chance.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:35 PM in reply to Richard Jenkins's post starting "Ok. Dwight Washington Fidel..."
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I'll use the reserves the manager picked and pm them with the choices.
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in many cases the reserves aren't in the squad also;
Too bad - they should've edited their team when the final squads were announced. That is why I have included an edit option for Managers before the cut-off date. You even extended the deadline to give them more time. Don't penalise others because a few didn't bother to edit their team.
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In one case one manager picked a player who isn't in the squad to recieve bonus points. I've had to change this to 'none seected' as i don't think it fair otherwise.
Swap-in a reserve and select that reserve player to receive the bonus points.
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Bear in mind this was everyone's real first stab at the contest. One player has reserves which aren't in the squad at all.
Too bad - there's always another game for them to do it properly.
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hence the thread so you want to be a creator. If i wait until the end of the contest peple would just pick the best player, at least now they have 3 matches to have a chance.
Managers don't get a choice - the creator selects the first available reserve that played. If no reserves played that's just tough luck. It's up to the Manager to make better choices next time.
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