You mean that each manager has effectively to field the same eleven players for a whole series? That is, a sub can be used for the whole series, but not for individual matches? (Doesn't matter either way - just want to be sure that I understand: in effect, this would be pretty much the same as when Richard was running the game on his Excel sheet, except that ex post substitutions could be made by the game creator if a manager was unlucky enough to have selected a player who didn't actually play at all in the series.)

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In this game, player transfers during the series are not possible so the scoring applies to one team of 11 players. The question is which 11 players? The original 11 or an 11 which includes some reserves? Let's take a real example from the WI v SA ODI series which has 5 matches. This is Ernest's team:

South Africa squad: Graeme Smith (captain), Mark Boucher, AB de Villiers, Boeta Dippenaar, Herschelle Gibbs, Andrew Hall, Jacques Kallis, Justin Kemp, Charl Langeveldt, Andre Nel, Makhaya Ntini, Justin Ontong, Shaun Pollock, Ashwell Prince.

West Indies squad: Shivnarine Chanderpaul (capt), Chris Gayle, Xavier Marshall, Wavell Hinds, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Brian Lara, Dwayne Smith, Dwayne Bravo, Courtney Browne, Corey Collymore, Daren Powell, Pedro Collins, Ian Bradshaw.

It's easy to see why Ernest is sitting at the bottom of the rankings after the first match. Five of his original choices didn't score points. Fidel Edwards and Dwight Washington will never score points because they aren't even in the squad. Ernest should have edited his team when the final squads were announced. Daren Powell, AB de Villiers, and Andrew Hall are in the squad but didn't play in the first match. If I were Richard I'd immediately use Ernest's bowling reserves to replace Fidel Edwards and Dwight Washington. Problem is two of the reserves: Nicky Boje and Reon King are also not in the squad. So only Charl Langeveldt can be used. As far as Daren Powell, AB de Villiers, and Andrew Hall are concerned, they may yet play so Richard needs to wait until the series is over. If any of them fail to play a game then Richard could edit Ernest's team to swap in a reserve like Shivnarine Chanderpaul.

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Daren Powell is a bowler too, he been picked as a batsman

The only fair way that I can see of dealing with this - i.e. a way that can be equally applied to all entrants - is to score only at the end of the series. Where a manager has picked a player who does not play all through the series, that player can be substituted, with substitutes being taken in the order that they are presented by the manager - so, if a bowler doesn't play all series, he should be substituted by reserve bowler 1, or reserve bowler 2, etc., in order (proceeding down the reserve list until you find the first one who actually played). I'm not sure how much work this would make for the creator though: it seems very complicated to me.

As far as Ern's players not scoring are concerned, well, as long as they play at some point, failure to score is just tough luck, isn't it? I'm not sure you should substitute even a non-player after only one match: the sub may only show up for that one match and the replaced player could then appear in every other match in the series.

Trouble with my suggestion is that it actually becomes impossible to score the series until it finishes since first match scores could be changed after the series ends if a non-scorer in that match eventually turns out to be a no-show and is then substituted retrospectively. I haven't got an answer to that one. I think Richard's solution using his Excel sheet was simply to allow no subs! We've certainly moved on and complicated things here!

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This is not much work for the creator. At the end of the series he/she needs to look at everyone's team for any player that hasn't scored a point. If they didn't play in any matches then they should be swapped with a reserve that did play. The matches can be scored as they are completed but treat the rankings and points as provisional. The creator should post the final rankings after he has swapped in the reserves where necessary.

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Excellent. That's the answer then!

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Due to the limitations of the system it would be wise not to pick fringe players in your first X1. If they play just one match they can't be swapped out. Pick regular players who are likely to play the most matches and use the fringe players as reserves. Just a suggestion. It can be very costly to go through a series where some players in your team are only playing one or two matches.

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You can tell that the report has been submitted successfully when the players names become links indicating that you are in viewreport instead of reportmatch. In reportmatch each data field has a rectangular cell. This is not the case when you are in viewreport. When reportmatch is saved successfully it redirects to viewreport to enable you to check that you've inputted your data correctly and edit the players scores where necessary. That's why in viewreport you see a note: "To edit your report, click on the player whose statistics you wish to edit." if you try to submit the same report more than once an error message will popup to say that it has already been saved.

Please let me know if you want either myself or another person to score any of the matches. To score a match they must be able to see "Score Match X" in viewgame otherwise they can't access the reportmatch form. I need to change a setting in the admin cp to give them viewing access to that link.

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Clicking submit once is enough. Tons of information is being saved, so it may take a while (especially if you are on a slow connection). We are pretty sure this is what caused the error in points.

Very cute Avatar Sir Adrian, and I notice you are a soccer fan, if you mean football, then we have a thread for that in the members and lounge forum You can post your opinions there if you want