India Vs. Australia - The second test

[Shaka]

Originally Posted by Beny

I think the point of the batsmen walking is to make the umps decision eaisier in what are very difficult circumstances. As far as i'm concerned good on them.

Yes I know. But Steve Waugh's opinion was 'we get the wrong end of bad decisions with umpires, why make it any easier with the good decisions?'

[fair_&_balance]

Originally Posted by Shaka

Yes I know. But Steve Waugh's opinion was 'we get the wrong end of bad decisions with umpires, why make it any easier with the good decisions?'

And I agree with this comment. It is smart and wise.

Anyway coming back to This match..what do you guys think Indian will make..

200, 300 or 400 ??

[Nikhil]

Originally Posted by Beny

If India can't win from here then they will never win. It only really matters to the Indians as this is a four match series.

Still Its going to be good watching the next few days.

Hmm. It really matters only to the Indians then. So Aussies won't mind losing this match at all. If I were Gilchrist, I would be a little more worried than this. With Sachin quite likely to return in the Nagpur test, I would not like to go in the third test 1-1, having dusted the Indians in the first test. But then, everyone thinks differently.

Sure, the next few days are going to be interesting to watch. No doubting that.

[Maranello]

Originally Posted by fair_&_balance

what do you guys think Indian will make..

200, 300 or 400 ??

300 minimum, I would be disappointed if they got less than that.. 400 would set things up nicely, remember though that India do have to bat fourth which means that statistically, they need to get more than Aus the first time around anyway.. (or better still, they bat so big now that they don't need to bat again!)

[Maranello]

Originally Posted by Shaka

Feeling ashamed? Well maybe that's putting it too strongly but three batsmen walking...players offering their place to up and coming newcomers...it's a far cry from Steve waugh's approach

Dare I say it... but doesn't this smack a tiny-teeny bit of arrogance/complacency? Waugh was a natural competitor, for whom winning was the most important part of playing...but some of these other guys obviously do not have that same single-mided "win-at-all-costs and to hell with everything else" mindset

[Nikhil]

Originally Posted by Maranello

Dare I say it... but doesn't this smack a tiny-teeny bit of arrogance/complacency? Waugh was a natural competitor, for whom winning was the most important part of playing...but some of these other guys obviously do not have that same single-mided "win-at-all-costs and to hell with everything else" mindset

It's not just a bit of arrogance/complecency, it's also plain double-standards. When your bowlers appeal for LBW's where the inside egde was heard in the commentary box, it does not that cool when you walk.

It means a bit like this, "ok we know your bowlers are not good enough and we can score runs regardless, but we need your wickets, since your batting is really good, and that's what we are worried about". If the Aussie bowlers stop appealing for catches decision like such, then only there is any meaning to what's going on there and Gilchrist has made it clear, it's not a team policy.

Btw, Yuvraj Singh walked as well. No one seems to mention him, for some reason.

[fair_&_balance]

Good going by Sehwag & Pathan so far. Good opportunity for Pathan to show that he may be the All rounder that India is looking for since Kapil retired. 65/1 after 1 hour of play.

[Nikhil]

Good session for India. 101/2 at lunch.

Sehwag is playing well. Pathan got out, but did his job quite well. That was huge six off Warne.

Let's congratulate Warne for becoming the highest wicket taker in the history of cricket. Kudos to the best leg-spinner ever. He's in my opinion, the best bowler ever.

So, India are in a good position and need to carry on. These two guys are key players. The next session is going to be interesting.

[Occasional Fan]

Originally Posted by Shaka

Yes I know. But Steve Waugh's opinion was 'we get the wrong end of bad decisions with umpires, why make it any easier with the good decisions?'

It's not about making the umpires' life easy. It's about not cheating. You can call Waugh's (and, to be fair, he's one among hundreds) approach professionalism, gamesmanship or whatever you like, but the fact is that if people did not walk when they should walk in your local village competition, you wouldn't want to be buying them drinks after the match. At the top of the sport the need for people who know they are out to leave the crease is even greater than in the amateur game: the professionals are the people who have greatest responsibility for looking after the game for the rest of us. If Waugh is "ashamed" of these three guys, as one poster suggested he might be, it is more of a reflection on him than them, in my humble, if somewhat old fashioned, opinion.

[Occasional Fan]

Originally Posted by Nikhil

Btw, Yuvraj Singh walked as well. No one seems to mention him, for some reason.

He wasn't mentioned in the report I read, Nikhil, but I'm more than happy to raise my hat to him as well.