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Old 05-12-2004, 09:16 AM
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Kumble;Laxman fuming over ODI omission

Courtesy www.thatscricket.com:
Senior Indian stars Anil Kumble has expressed his anguish at being ignored for an upcoming one-day series in Bangladesh.

"I don't want to sit and watch a one-day international. I want to be playing in the eleven," Kumble told The Hindu daily.

Kumble, 34, who holds the Indian Test record of 434 wickets jointly with legendary all-rounder Kapil Dev, was "rested" along with Laxman for three one-dayers in Bangladesh starting December 23.

The Indian board announced the team on Thursday saying Kumble was not keen to play while Laxman had been dropped because his fielding was not up to the mark for one-dayers.
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I say this is crazy!They still treat him like crap even after hes emerged the highest indian wicket taker in tests.I dont understand whats in the minds of the team management or maybe they've lost their minds!!!Grrrr
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According to an indiantimes article:
Why are my scores forgotten: Laxman

Paul Benjamin



HYDERABAD: He swallowed without complaint the humiliation meted out to him by the national selectors who dropped him from the one-day side, but VVS Laxman will not take barbs aimed at his cricketing abilities lying down.

Reacting sharply to the comments of a selector who said the Hyderabad batsman was dropped due to his poor fielding — and that even his batting cannot guarantee him a place in the Test side any more — Laxman told The Times of India on Saturday that it was not easy to score 69 runs on a turning Mumbai wicket which helped India to beat Australia. “Why do my performances get quickly forgotten in India?” an anguished Laxman wondered.

“Indian cricket remembers me only when I score. They don’t seem to care that sometimes even I need their support to stay in the team. For instance, I am asked to bat at different positions in the line-up, as required by the team. But when I go through a lean patch and need to get some big knocks and regain my form, I seem to get dumped,’’ pointed out the stylish Hyderabadi batsman.

According to Laxman, he was never rated by his coach as a bad fielder and he never secured more negatives than positives from the coach.

“In fielding, one point is awarded for every run saved or conceded. In the last two years, there may have been a couple of occasions when I had more negatives than positives, but never were they as high as 10, which is considered a bad mark,” said Laxman.

In fact, Laxman is reckoned to be among the best slip catchers in India, which is why most bowlers like having him stand in that position for them.

Of course, Laxman’s detractors claim that he is made to stand there because he is ineffective in any other position.

But that begs the question: would any bowler agree to let his skipper position a pair of unreliable hands in such a crucial fielding spot?

It’s not fair, VVS tells selectors

HYDERABAD: What Laxman also doesn’t seem to understand is how the selectors singled him out by attributing poor batting form as the reason for dropping. Asked why some fringe players were not given a chance on a tour like Bangladesh, Board secretary S K Nair had told The Times of India in Mumbai that “some top batsmen are still rusty and they need to get into the groove for the series against Pakistan.”

“Doesn’t that hold good for me too?” he wondered. Laxman feels that the argument that he is not in good form does not hold water. “Yes, I have not been in the same form as I was last year when I was the highest rungetter in One-dayers and was only third behind Sehwag and Dravid in Tests. But I was averaging around 35, and had a good strike rate.

“I scored a century in the finals of the ODI in Pakistan and scored a brisk 43 in 44 balls again in the Centenary Cup match played at Eden Gardens. I would understand if I was slow and wasted a lot of balls or did not rotate the strike, but nothing of this sort happened,” he said.
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This is so disrespectful to such a class act!
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:22 AM in reply to imaginarydiva's post "Kumble;Laxman fuming over ODI omission"
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honestly I have seen laxman play and there is noting elegant about him..I simply dont know why people say he is an elegant playe...he looks clumsy at the crease and his shot have a heaviness to them . He crouches too low in his stance for such a big man and overall he just looks too clumsy.
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Old 05-12-2004, 02:52 PM in reply to The Great DonTalon's post starting "honestly I have seen laxman play and ..."
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Well the reason he is considered an elegant player is because hes a very wristy player and hes got a wide range of shots in his kitty.Never noticed anything 'clumsy' about him.Ill look out for that in the future tho;LOL.
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:44 PM in reply to imaginarydiva's post starting "Well the reason he is considered an..."
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well I saw him here in 2002 and he looked nothing like an elegant or great player..yes he has some runs but he's way too inconsistent ....he very very over rated
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:55 PM in reply to The Great DonTalon's post starting "well I saw him here in 2002 and he..."
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well I saw him here in 2002 and he looked nothing like an elegant or great player..yes he has some runs but he's way too inconsistent ....he very very over rated
I don't think anyone is convinced that VVS Laxman is a complete Test player: he's a potentially sensational no 6 bat on the right surface... able to accelerate the scoring in ways that can leave even the greatest bowlers driven to utter despair... but that's about all he is: his footwork absolutely sucks, and is in no way up to Test class batting.. and on any track where timing the ball is difficult and runs are hard to come by... he's a damn liability.

Watch him on an Aussie pitch, with the ball coming onto the bat.. and plenty of pace and bounce... and from all I hear he's reminiscent of Gower or Mark Waugh in the way he uses the pace of the ball.. picking out gaps with the most delicate of touches... and generally mesmerising all who watch with the simplicity and lack of effort that characterises his play.

of course.. watch him on a slow and low track with a hint of uneven bounce.. and he looks all at sea!
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:56 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "I don't think anyone is convinced that..."
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Footwork !

Have a look at Virender Sehwags footwork (or lack of), it doesn't seem to stop him, currently sitting at world number two in the test rankings.

I think VVS has a decent enough case for being left out, Sehwag was persisted with despite a bad run, he should be too.
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:13 AM in reply to vvvrulz's post starting "Footwork ! Have a look at Virender..."
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Footwork ! Have a look at Virender Sehwags footwork (or lack of), it doesn't seem to stop him, currently sitting at world number two in the test rankings.
I do think it's a disgrace that world bowling is currently so poor that Sehwag has been able to succed as an opener: I really don't mind players with poor footwork and technique having limited success as no 5 or 6 batsmen.. but openers should really be found out at international level.. and usually have been - it's surely only the current poverty of world class bowling (and the excessive batsman friendliness of many pitches) that's allowed this current crop of sloggers to succeed as openers.

Get some more uneven bounce in pitches and any player with poor footwork will be exposed even by journeyman bowlers: something that is long, long overdue.
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Old 06-12-2004, 06:34 AM in reply to Rachael's post starting "I do think it's a disgrace that world..."
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Racheal some of Shewags best proformances have been against the likes of McGrath and Gillespie.
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Old 06-12-2004, 08:07 AM in reply to vvvrulz's post starting "Footwork ! Have a look at Virender..."
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So true!U'll get nothing by demoralising that poor guy.They did that once during the world cup and that was bad enough.
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Old 06-12-2004, 11:56 PM in reply to Beny's post starting "Racheal some of Shewags best..."
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As beny said, Sehwag has torn apart the much vaunted Australian attack, as well as the Pakistani attack, and both are certianly no mugs. Its a bit far to say that Sehwags runs have been due solely to lack of bowling strengths (all though I do admit that world class bowling isn't all that great in general).
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