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Old 23-09-2005, 04:30 PM
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Indian Coach

After this lates contreversy, was it right to appoint Chappell as coach or go with Moody?. It seems to me that moody has made more progress in the same time than Chappell has India.

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Old 24-09-2005, 08:41 AM in reply to Captain's post "Indian Coach"
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With people like Ganguly at the helm, it makes no difference, whether the coach is Moody or Chappell. If Ganguly is removed from the team, Greg Chappell may change the fortunes of this team.
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Old 24-09-2005, 10:26 AM in reply to rineet's post starting "With people like Ganguly at the helm,..."
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I think it's critical for team unity and morale that a good working relationship exists between captain and coach. I cite Vaughan and Fletcher as a good example. Ganguly's batting average playing good sides away in the previous 16 Test matches is 46.2. Based on that there is no argument to drop him from the side on form. As captain he also has a better away record than Inzamam-ul-Haq and is 3 years younger. Under Ganguly's captaincy India have won 11 of 28 Test matches (39.2%) compared to Pakistan with Inzi at the helm (37.5%). There appears to be a power struggle going on between Chapple and Ganguly. Why is it easier to change coaches than to change captains? My belief is that a new coach should have authority to choose his captain. The working relationship between the pair is vital to creating a positive and productive environment. Ganguly should follow Nasser Hussain's mature decision to step aside for the good of the team and continue to support the team as a player. Chapple was brought in to usher in a new era for Indian cricket but that must include authority to make some changes to the team including the captaincy.
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Old 25-09-2005, 01:39 AM in reply to Mike's post starting "I think it's critical for team unity..."
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Are you sure about those stats?
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Old 25-09-2005, 01:44 AM in reply to vvvrulz's post starting "Are you sure about those stats?"
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Yes, I used my calculator to add up the runs and divided that figure by the number of innings (not including the not outs, of course). I can post the scores if you wish.
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Old 25-09-2005, 11:03 AM in reply to Mike's post starting "Yes, I used my calculator to add up the..."
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I think its too early to judge Greg Chappel, we should judge him at the end of this series, maybe after England tour us. I think its wrong to compare Greg Chappel to Tom Moody. This is because Moody started with a Sri lankan team which was in form from last season and he also has in-form players like Kumar Sangakarrah. Greg Chappel started with an Indian team which had a horrible last season, he also didn't have Sachin Tendulkar who has been injured with a tennis elbow. Saurav Ganguly was banned and was in terrible form and the fast bowler were meidiocre.

I think Greg Chappel has done quite well with this team considering the points i mentioned earlier. He told his main aim was the fast bowler and we have seen some inprovemnt from the pacemen since last season. I think the only reason his coaching has come under qusetion is because Saurav Ganguly.
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Old 25-09-2005, 09:13 PM in reply to Captain's post "Indian Coach"
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A hard nosed person like Chapel is just what Indian cricket needs, all the Cricinfo columnists are right; Indian Cricket's single most challenging threat is self obsession – Chapel as I see it as the only man that can bring in more professionalism. Moody perhaps might have become another John Wright. John Wright wasn't by any means bad for Indian Cricket, he was tremendous in fact, but now India needs to move ahead, they need not a John Wright or Saurav Ganguly, they need some one straight forward, committed and who talks no non sense and tolerates none either, Chapel is exactly that. It’s not a question of whether Chapel can do the job; it’s a question of whether the Indian cricket system will allow him to do the job. But I’m not sure I have an answer to that.
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Old 26-09-2005, 05:50 AM in reply to Zainub's post starting "A hard nosed person like Chapel is just..."
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Ian Defends Greg

Hi friends here is what i found on cricinfo, the Elder Chappel has defended the attitude of younger Chappel


Ian Chappell, the legendary Australian captain, has come out with his thoughts on the Greg Chappell-Sourav Ganguly controversy and feels that Ganguly should have been prepared for an honest and ruthless answer the moment he asked for a "frank opinion". Ian Chappell, Greg's elder brother, described the manner in which they had been brought up and said he was least surprised by the way events unfolded.
"Greg can be a very patient man, much more diplomatic than either his father or his elder brother," wrote Ian Chappell in his column in Mid Day,a Mumbai-based tabloid. "However, if you don't want to hear the truth, then don't ask him for a frank opinion. Greg Chappell grew up in a household where frank opinions were served up at the breakfast table more often than cereal and fruit juice.

"If Indian cricket wanted someone who would passionately seek to help players who wanted to improve, would do his utmost to put the best team on the field for every match without fear or favour and would offer a frank opinion when asked, then they were on the right track with Greg Chappell."

He mentioned Greg Chappell's insistence on a high standard of fielding and fitness and said it was ingrained in them from an early age. "We all [Ian, Greg and Trevor Chappell] had reputations for being either a good catcher or an excellent ground fielder," he said. "As a player Greg maintained an exceedingly high standard in both facets of fielding and it used to get right up his nose when he felt others were being lazy in the field. It probably still does." These comments come in the wake of Greg Chappell's e-mail to the Indian board which said Ganguly was "no longer able to meet the standards of mental and physical fitness that international cricket demands."

The elder Chappell also pointed out the tough decisions in pursuit of success that Greg had taken when he captained Australia and later when he was appointed national selector. "Greg was part of a panel that took some tough decisions that eventually led to the lengthy period of success," he wrote. "In drawing up the blueprint for a successful future, that panel sacked some talented but undisciplined players. They replaced them with skilful cricketers who had pride in their own performance as well as an extreme desire to achieve victory for the team."
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Old 26-09-2005, 08:45 AM in reply to ahsan32's post "Ian Defends Greg"
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Ganguly has a history of being labeled as a bit of a prima-dona... To me I think the current debacle is his fault as he never should have taken this to the media.

But in any regard... Chappel is a bit of a whip cracker, but I dont think the Indian's will suffer from that. If they dont want him then we'll take him back as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 26-09-2005, 03:11 PM in reply to Beny's post starting "Ganguly has a history of being labeled..."
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I think this whole ordeal has gotten out of hand, it should have stayed in the dressing room and Gunguly was the one who brought it out and Chappell made it worse, now there needs to be a reconstruction time and no meetings as to who should go or saty both are very capable men and need to get over this row.
 


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