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| I repeat what I have said before - T20 cricket, with reference to the great traditions of the game - is rubbish, and apart from the extra money that will be floating around, it will do absolutely nothing to enhance the quality of the game. Batsmen (like the West Indians) who are already having trouble staying at the crease and building an innings will gain nothing from the wild and indiscriminate hitting necessary to succeed in this form of the game. The bowlers will be handed wickets on a golden platter rather than having to earn them... |
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As for wild and indiscriminate hitting- that's already a problem that existed before the mass-introduction of T20, and I can't see it really getting worse. But if you look at the two best batsmen in the IPL so far- Simon Katich and Shaun Marsh- it's interesting to note that they were two of the best batsmen in the Pura Cup in our summer. So I think it's certainly possible for the batsmen to separate the two forms of the game and be successful in both- it's just up to the individual batsman. |
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Batting is so much slower now isn't it. ![]() |
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) but nevertheless, I do think that T20 will cause bowlers to be more accurate. Umar Gul and RP Singh demonstated the benefits of accuracy in the World T20 last year, and contrary to fears, spinners haven't been made totally reduntant either.As a matter of interest, I checked the T20 records of some of these bowlers and came up with the following: Asif- 9 matches, 12 wickets, average 22.4, ER 7.7, BB 4-18. Johnson- 7 matches, 10 wickets, average 17.2, ER 6.4, BB 3-22. Steyn- 2 matches, 5 wickets, average 5.2, ER 3.7, BB 4-9. Arguably the three most promising up-and-coming Test pace bowlers in the world, two of whom have very impressive records over a significant number of games, the third (Steyn) making a very good start, going at under 4 despite being the fastest of the three. Last edited by Aurelius : 11-05-2008 at 10:19 AM. |
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| well too bad for u guys that the IPL is an instant success and has seen TRP's in india never witnessed before. So the IPL and T20 is here to stay and I frankly dont understand comments made by people who haven't even seen it. The quality of grounds with have improved, the pitches made in the earlier part of the tournament were pacy, bouncy. I should ask some of u guys take a look at the new D.Y.Patil stadium in Mumbai where the finals are supposed to be held. one look even on the TV screens tells u the stadium is world-class. ask the foriegn players who played there. the last six odd weeks has had so many moments and has given me improbable battles like gilly vs warne vs mc grath. jayasurya and tendulkar opening together. yuvraj singh and dravid being booed by the mumbai crowd. the crowd in kolkatta erupting when shoaib akhtar took his magical 4 wickets against delhi. i have seen so many fringe players in india which is the best thing to happen to them with the lack of publicity of domestic tournaments. i have seen exciting games won in the last over. a couple of young kids getting the better of dilhara fernando, and jaysurya missing an easy run-out succumbing to pressure. hit and giggle cricket u say??...u have to see the dazzling stroke play displayed by Shaun Marsh, Rohit Sharma and Gautam Gambhir and Sangakarra which shows u T20 is not only about brute force.bowlers learnt the art of picking wickets and keeping the batsmen quiet with variations of pace etc as the tournament moved on and this was reflected by average totals going down. I was a skeptic like some of u guys on how the idea would work, city based teams with players all over the world playing T20. i found myself cheering for gilly and symonds (who play for my city) smashing the bowlers from other teams. lotsa close games and cricket got better with the advent of IPL, lots of opportunities for peeps like watson and marsh and tons of young indians providing themselves that platform to get into national teams. so what if players make a buck and the franchisees have anyways realized that big names dont ensure good performance and i'm sure next year on they would be judicious on how to spend their money and would be better at spotting talent. and frankly i dont see an advent of club culture in cricket after IPL . the funniest thing i heard was Graeme Smith saying he has learnt to tolerate Aussies(Warne and Watson)... even vacationing with them in Goa...he says his perceptions have been altered and all this augers well for cricket |
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| I don't understand your "too bad for you guys" comment. If it's a success in India and the Indians like it, fine. I read the UK newspapers every day, and it hardly rates a mention most days. It doesn't mean we wish the IPL any ill will. All it means is that - well, to be quite frank about it - we don't care about it. Horses for courses really: the appeal of the shorter forms of the game has long been higher in India than that of test cricket, and the reverse is probably true in England. There's room for both forms is my guess.
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| If it gets as big a fan following as it did here in Australia this summer, the ECB might have to start thinking about staging a game at Wembley on a drop in pitch. |
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