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Originally Posted by Rachael 1. No bowler should come back into the side until ready to bowl 25+ overs a day: they either play with the expectation of contributing fully... or they make way for someone else. |
25 overs is about the maximum I'd want Flintoff to be bowling, preferably in 4 or 5, five over spells. Used as a shock, 90+ mph strike bowler to break partnerships and generally 'rough' up the batsmen when they get a little complacent. I'd be looking to bring Flintoff on when there's pressure being built at the other end. That leaves potentially 75 overs to be shared between Sidebottom and Broad, is that truly feasible Rachael? You cannot rely on Panesar bowling any overs at all on wickets favouring swing or seam - that's the greatest flaw in your side. You flog Flintoff and you flog Sidebottom and Broad to exhaustion, and no plan B if any of those are proving ineffective.
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Originally Posted by Rachael 2. Guys like Broad and Tremlett are more than capable of bowling 25+ overs a day (and do so commonly enough for their counties): |
Is that the same Tremlett that keeps breaking down due to injury? Do you truly want someone like that as part of a 3 man seam attack, one of which is Flintoff?
Broad is still young and inexperienced, he cannot be expected to lead an attack in International Cricket, or bowl the number of overs you expect of him. And if Broad proves ineffective, where do you turn then in your 3 man seam attack, one of which includes Flintoff? In any case I beleive Broad is being groomed longer term to become Flintoff's allrounder replacement, he's already expressed his desire to become a full allrounder rather than a bowler who bats a bit.
Broads very promising as a support, second change bowler, but he's certainly not the International strike bowler you appear to want to use him as.
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Originally Posted by Rachael if they are going to get opportunities to play due to the likes of Flintoff and Hoggard missing Tests... they should be used (so they can develop) not hidden away (learning little). |
They are being used, at least Broad is, but he's not bowling the kind of overs you'd have him bowling and nor is he being used as a strike bowler either. Tremlett looks like he'll get a run out in the next game, but only primarily because it's likely to be a hard bouncy pitch.
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Originally Posted by Rachael i... what's the sense of depriving the 2nd string of the opportunity to warrant their place so that a jobsworth 3rd string player doesn't just loaf around the outfield like a spare dinner? |
Firstly, because in your setup Broad isn't a second change bowler, you're using him as a new ball bowler. Unless you intend on using Flintoff in that capacity, which would be equally foolish. Flintoff is not a new ball bowler, he works best with the older ball, because he extracts life out of the pitch with his bowling style and he can exploit any reverse swing there may be around - that means he has to bowl with the older ball.
Secondly, because you don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of bowling 'variety', because in your setup, all the seam bowlers have to bowl their overs, regardless of how effective they are. Why do some bowlers get bowled more in some games than others? Because they're being more effective with the ball that the other bowlers - novel concept I know, but not that hard to understand. The more variety and options open to you, the more likely you are to find a bowling partnership that works in those conditions and on that pitch. When you have all your seam bowlers operating at or near peak capacity, you'll be far more successful with 4 of them than you will with 3, because each one poses a different problem and there's no respite. In your setup you'd have to bowl Panesar, who may or may not be effective in seam friendly conditions.
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Originally Posted by Rachael 4. Taking 20 wickets needs to be done within a maximum of 90 overs a day: playing the extra bowler doesn't increase that to 120 overs a day. |
No-one said it did, but you seem to miss the point that 1) The more bowlers you have the more likely you are to find a partnership that works on that pitch and in those conditions and 2) That you ensure you always have at least one pace bowler fully rested and fresh for his spell. In your setup, all the seamers have to bowl their overs regardless of whether they're being effective or not and regardless of whether they're fully rested or recovered from their previous spells. IS that the way to take 20 wickets?
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Originally Posted by Rachael The extra bowler can only contribute at the expense of another. |
Why can't all the bowlers contribute together? Cast your mind back to the 2005 Ashes, that was all bowlers contributing together, or would you like to point out which bowler profited at the expense of another?
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Originally Posted by Rachael The batsman that's missing out can contribute pretty much irrespective of what his colleagues do. |
Unless he scores 0 Rachael, or do you not factor that possiblity into your calculations?