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Strauss has gone back to his "old" game where he looks to be compact and work the ball around. Pieterson looked to be more positive and Vaughan showed the class we all know he has. Agreed, at least it was a good test where either team had a chance of victory going into the last innings and a draw was out of the question unless weather intervened. Quote:
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This says it all: Code: Broad M O M R W BB BBM AVE Econ S/R 2 65.0 11 218 3 2/85 3/139 72.66 3.35 130.0 Not particularly economical or threatening. Anderson M O M R W BB BBM AVE Econ S/R 2 67.3 11 269 10 4/118 5/130 26.90 3.98 40.5 At least Andersons taking wickets though!
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| You may well be able to coverup the teams short comings all summer because SA are not going to be able to show them up.
__________________ "Checkout the big brain on Brett" Pulp Fiction |
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| Hmmm... not convinced. Sure, Kallis towers over the other batsmen... but the batting should ensure competitive enough totals are posted even if it doesn't offer much prospect of SA batting England out of games... and the seam attack more than makes up for the comparative weakness of the spin bowlers. It's a shame neither Pollock nor Langveldt will be touring... but the side should still be regarded as pretty heavyweight: more serious opposition than most Test nations can offer. |
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| Meh - I'm chalking this one up as another one the 'one that got away' board. NZ should probably have won, and definitely should have not lost. Again, NZ's lack of two-innings cricket nastily exposed...
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He bowled 38.5% (66 out of 171 overs) of all the balls bowled to England in this match. A ridiculous situation when you have 5 bowlers in your side. And with less than a 3 hour break between innings. Notably he was not doing much late in his spell, he had bowled himself into the ground. If Vettori is going to continue as captain I think New Zealand need a second spinner in their team, and he has to be prepared to give them the ball. For cripes sakes that battery of military medium pacers you Kiwi's seem to like selecting looks superfluous to say the least, I have noted Mills has only bowled 15 overs this match ! I also think having a spinner as captain and a spinner as coach (Bracewell) is also an unhealthy and lopsided situation. In my opinion that is an "either or" situation (keep Bracewell as coach but not Vettori as captain or vice-versa). Last edited by acker : 27-05-2008 at 01:50 AM. |
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| i think bond's absence in the team was severely felt in this match by the kiwis. i think good swing bowling at his pace in such conditions would have made it a lot tougher for england specially in the start of the second innings for them. the pitch didn't offer assistance to vettori like it did for panesar which would make me feel the kiwis were slightly unfortunate. all in all a good performance coming back after being down and out. a lot of positive intent by the english players, a good result barring the little hiccup towards the end where they a lost a few quick wickets. i think collingwoods poor form is something they will have to think about, he looked miserable out there...not a single ball played from the middle of the bat. a very good and exciting test match except for the understandable slow innings by strauss and vaughan, the highlight for me being ross taylors fantastic innings and panesar running thru nz. |
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Steyn is an excellent player, and will cause problems, but what happens if he breaks down? Or what will they so when they get on a pitch that helps Monty, is Harris of sufficient quality to bowl England out, I doubt it... |
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I have just read on the BBC that Flintoff probably won´t be fit for the one dayers, not looking good for the big guy. Pleased for Strauss, and Panesar.
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| Glad to see that Ern, it was a shame that the captaincy thing was driven between Strauss and Flintoff during the last Ashes winter but I think that caused a few people to be harsh on him and the whole matter may have contributed to his loss of form, not saying you were one of them but it's good to see people returning to form (Strauss, Vaughan as captain and possibly with the bat) and hopefully fitness (Flintoff, Jones), and confidence (Bell, we hope, and Anderson) after a difficult 2006/07. I still think Strauss has time on his side to be a potential England captain again, especially if one of Cook, Bell, Pietersen doesn't step forward in such a way in the future. I've been thinking on the Broad situation, he has bought us runs yes, but as one of a four-man bowling attack he needs to chip in and take wickets. I'll still side with backing him to come good at some point, but his performance with the ball at Trent Bridge will be under scrutiny in some quarters. Interesting from the other thread on the fastest balls by Englishmen in the first couple of tests from Rachael's 'Simon Jones' thread (links therein) - Anderson topped 90 both times, Sidebottom hit 88 and Broad got up to 87. They can do it, they just need confidence and possibly in Broad's case a bit of either a) sustained extra pace or b) increased skill with the ball. P.S. Anyone notice Monty now has 101 test wickets? After just 28 tests at 31 apiece, he has a long and bright future ahead |
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