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Worst #11 Batsman Ever?

I remember the days when people used to call Devon Malcolm the worst batsman in the world. However, after his retirement from first class cricket, he went on to make a century in the Minor Counties (for Suffolk, I believe)

Really, Devon Malcolm's lack of batting skill pales into insignificance alongside the one, the only Chris Martin

Martin has less than half the test match runs than he has test match wickets.

He currently averages 2.08 with a high score of 7 from 42 innings (with 19 not outs). He has been dismissed for a duck no less than 17 times!!

No matter which players I look up - Ewen Chatfield, Devon Malcolm, Phil Tufnell etc. no one seems to have such a woeful batting record.

Can anyone compare to the batting records that Chris Martin is racking up??

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Old 16-12-2006, 10:23 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post "Worst #11 Batsman Ever?"
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Can anyone compare to the batting records that Chris Martin is racking up??
Geraint Jones?
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Geraint Jones?
Come on greg, I was looking for sensible suggestions! Jones' recent form maybe comparable, but at least he can play the cut shot. All Chris Martin has is the leave (often when the ball's heading for middle stump)

In fact, last year vs the West Indies, Martin was out first ball 3 innings in a row!
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Old 16-12-2006, 10:33 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "Come on greg, I was looking for..."
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Being serious Martin does look even worse than his countryman Danny Morrison who was a recognised bunny as well but still managed to famously keep England out for half a day once.

I can't recall a worse number 11 though i will try.
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Old 16-12-2006, 10:37 PM in reply to greg's post starting "Being serious Martin does look even..."
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I'm going to say Glenn McGrath!
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Old 16-12-2006, 10:40 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post "Worst #11 Batsman Ever?"
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If Jones keeps playing the way he is, without being dropped, his average could go that way.

2004 ave 35.23
2005 ave 26.00
2006 ave 13.75

At this rate, he could be there by next year.
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Old 16-12-2006, 10:48 PM in reply to greg's post starting "Being serious Martin does look even..."
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Being serious Martin does look even worse than his countryman Danny Morrison ....
Good call... Suggestions so far....

Danny Morrison - Average of 8.42 - High Score of 42* - 24 ducks - 71 innings - Ducks to innings 34%
Devon Malcolm - 6.05 - 29 - 16 - 58 - 27.5%
Phil Tufnell - 5.19 - 22* - 15 - 59 - 25.4%
Ewen Chatfield - 8.57 - 21* - 10 - 54 - 18.5%
Glenn McGrath - 7.52 - 61 - 34 - 135 - 25.1%
Ed Giddins - 2.50 - 7 - 3 - 7 - 42.8%
Alan Mullally - 5.52 - 24 - 12 - 27 - 44.4%
Courtney Walsh - 7.54 - 30* - 43 - 185 - 23.2%
Cameron Cuffy - 4.14 - 15 - 6 - 23 - 26.08%
Patrick Patterson - 6.59 - 21* - 8 - 38 - 21.0%
Danish Kaneira 7.06 - 29 - 18 - 57 - 31.6%
Bhagwat Chandrasekkar - 4.07 - 22 - 23 - 80 - 28.8%
Bishen Bedi 8.98 - 50* - 20 - 101 - 19.8%
Mervyn Dillon - 8.44 - 43 - 26 - 68 - 38.2%
Dilip Doshi - 4.60 - 20 - 14 - 38 - 36.8%
Bruce Reid - 4.65 - 13 - 6 - 34 - 17.6%
Terry Alderman - 6.54 - 26* - 13 - 53 - 24.5%

THE TARGET: Chris Martin - 2.02 - 7 - 17 - 42 - 40.5%

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Old 16-12-2006, 11:04 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "Come on greg, I was looking for..."
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All Chris Martin has is the leave (often when the ball's heading for middle stump)
Lol!

Looking at the stats there cant have been any worse in modern times, what about 30 years ago?
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Old 16-12-2006, 11:51 PM in reply to pie_chucker's post starting "Lol! Looking at the stats there cant..."
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Courtney Walsh's figures are flattered by 61 not outs... most gathered because the batsmen the other end reckoned they had better try something outrageous rather than be stranded: to my mind he remains the most entertaining batsman in the history of cricket... with about as much idea of where the ball was going to be as Harmison had on the first morning at the Gabba

Seriously though... I do think differences in ability become irrelevent once you reach players of the callibre of Tuffers, Malcolm, Mullally and Giddens (a quartet who, sadly, never played int he same side).
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i remember devon looking particularly inept at the crease, which gets him my vote.
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