We are going back on old ground again SixandOut. His action was illegal until they changed the law. Many do not agree with the law change, and so by default, do not agree with Muralitheran's continuance in cricket.
If someone put a stump in the ground, gave you a cricket ball and said if you can knock the stump out of the ground you get a million dollars, would you throw the ball with a bent arm or bowl it with a straight arm? Of course you would throw it. Have you ever seen a fielder attempt to run out a batsman by bowling the ball at the stumps? No, the throw it and why? Because you can achieve greater power and accuracy.
When cricket was created, they realised from the start, that the game would be no good and the batsmen would be greatly disadvantaged if throwing the ball was allowed. Thus the rule against chucking/throwing.
Then after a century of fair application of this rule, some guy comes along and starts bending his arm, gets away with it due to politics, and surprise, surprise, he gets bagfuls of wickets. And cricket is worse off because of it.
Muralitheran would never has reached grade cricket in the Aussie system. He, like many others over the years would have been weeded out for the good of the game.

LOL. How about starting a "nerds and words" thread where we log grammar errors? You can add your failure to capitalise "Murali's" while you are at it.

Now... Back on topic. You think it is only Aussies? Well we will just have to agree to disagree but the poll on this forum belies your opinion though.



15 degrees?? Not according to my measurements.

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Like I said in a match situation there is nothing to stop him (or any bowler for that matter) flexing his arm 20 degrees or so. The law as it stands at the moment is an ass!

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Mark.

And what we have got to remember the 15 degree law isnt 15 degrees of bend its 15 degrees of straightening.

After all its perfectally legal to bowl with an arm that is 45 degrees bent, as long as it stays 45 degrees bent all the way through the delivery swing (which IMO is pretty difficult as the arm will naturally straighten)

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Mark.

the law is not an ass, I think that your comments are silly.

Like you say, whats to stop Lee from flexing his arm more than 15 degrees. Well, let me think, perhaps the umpire is there to stop that.

There is nothing wrong with the law. What do you then suggest for the law, 0 degrees ( well lets just stop everyone except Australians from bowling then ).

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434, world record for the shortest period. Whos choking now?

The law IS an ass, as it can be easily abused! So therefore my comments are not silly but constructive.

There is nothing to stop Lee (or ANY bowler!) from also flexing his arm more, and no, in the current climate the umpire would neither call him or tell him to stop it, all he could do is report him AFTER the game which is a bit pointless if he wins the game for his team!

You've just contradicted yourself there, we know Lee has been recorded at 10 degrees or so and wait... he's an Australian and he's bowling now....

Anyway I'm English why should I care about who the Aussies do or dont pick I have enough concern with my own team , who I wish could find some bowlers with very dodgy actions to win us some games!

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Mark.

We should pick Kirtley then


On 2nd thoughts NO.

Exactly, the one bowler we have with a dodgy action is c**p. .

Even then he's had a one year ban, at least we are trying to eradicate chucking.

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Mark.

He did used to throw it.
That is a fact.
And now his doosra looks very,very suspect.

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" You don't want the truth,you can't handle the truth."

it is indeed a fact ... and nothing has changed except the fact that 99% of bowlers have been found to flex as much - or (often) more - so it is now legal and no longer a throw but a delivery.

is it time to spend money clearing him again

what is the current climate exactly?? a number of bowlers have beeen banned for throwing in recent times.

which is a comment on your second comment - it's only one match (and most cases - like kirtley or botha not necessarily match winning performances - lawson may be the one exception and look what happened to him), it's by no means pointless and flauting such laws will, if recent experience is an indicator, cost you at the very minimum time out of your career if not your career. if science clears you - get back to wicket taking and good on ya

chuck at your peril - you will be reported and tested ...banned, told to sort it or cleared.