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Old 20-12-2006, 02:17 PM in reply to Colourful Chaddi's post starting "How are the selection of Munaf Patel..."
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Munaf and Sreesanth are certainly very promising bowlers. Watching Sreesanth in action against South Africa at the weekend was great. He really enjoys his cricket and his duel with Andre Nel was very amusing! He's also got a lot going for him as a bowler, he thought out the dismissal of Hashim Amla very well.
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Old 20-12-2006, 03:03 PM in reply to Notts Exile's post starting "Munaf and Sreesanth are certainly very..."
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These is what cricket pundits have said about this young bowler Sreesanth:
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In Sreesanth's case his wrist and fingers are right behind the ball and this provides the support necessary to maintain a good seam position. If the wrist and fingers are right behind the ball, and follow the ball after delivery you will get a good seam position.
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I've never seen anyone do that as consistently. It was remarkable how well the seam came out every time. The good bowlers do that consistently over periods and probably three or four times in an over. He was doing it six times an over, time after time after time
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Starting with a peach of an inswinger to dismiss Graeme Smith, then replicating the delivery to the right-handed Hashim Amla, summoning a jaffa to undo Jacques Kallis, screaming past Mark Boucher's defences and swinging out Shaun Pollock with a fuller one, Sreesanth was simply unstoppable. The seam position rarely wavered, the swing was mostly controlled and the pace was up near the 140 kph mark. In ten overs, he administered to South Africa a dose of their own medicine.

Kallis's dismissal summed up the story. First over after lunch. First ball shaped away and ricocheted off the splice; the second shaped away and turned Kallis inside out; and the third one, the coup de grace, shaped away yet again, kissed the edge and flew to second slip. It was seam bowling of the highest class and South Africa's best batsman was made to look like a novice.
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Sreesanth was sensational, doing everything that South Africa's opening bowlers failed to do yesterday, using a superb wrist position to hit the seam with unerring regularity.
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It was the game against Australia. We lost badly, but he came back and bowled a beautiful second spell. That was enough to tell you that you just had to pick this guy for overseas Tests, and even games in India. There's nothing like bowling the right length and hitting the seam. And his wrist position is such that he'll always get reverse swing too.
Here are some articles about Sreesanth, most of them are quiet useful to read if you have not heard of this bowler before. Livewire from laidbackwaters , Sreesanth inspires South Africa's annihilation , Sreesanth on song

With India' Sreesanth, Pathan, VRV and Munaf Patel, Pakistan's Asif and Gul and Sri Lanka's Malinga- the Sub Contienet really does have very exciting and promising pace bowlers for the future.
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Old 20-12-2006, 04:13 PM in reply to Colourful Chaddi's post starting "These is what cricket pundits have said..."
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I have been genuinely delighted with the progress of Sreesanth.... my only concern with the above articles being the precedent set when Pathan's wrist position was said to have been delighting Wasim Akram: Pathan has shown glimpses of a great talent but his Test bowling hasn't YET been magnificent.

As a purist I'm absolutely delighted to keep reading of swing bowlers emerging left, right and centre (and not just in the subcontinent, as Mitchell Johnson sounds a great Aussie prospect). IF Sreesanth, Asif, Pathan and Johnson can just live up to their hype.. the Test scene might get more interesting.

What's really needed is a step up from some of the other youngsters: Jerome Taylor, Umar Gul, Rana Naved, Munaf Patel, Stuart Broad, Tom Smith and so on (a list that includes some whove already made their mark and some who've yet to get past first base).
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Old 20-12-2006, 04:32 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "I have been genuinely delighted with..."
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Rana Naved will be delighted to be called a youngster.
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Old 20-12-2006, 04:49 PM in reply to Milo's post starting "Rana Naved will be delighted to be..."
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LOL. I agree that Rana's well and truly out of nappies but he's still significantly short of 30.. and as a bowler who gets results through guile... that's surely just moving into his prime. I just hope he gets the opportunity to carve out a decent Test career as he's a far more deserving player than the likes of Sami (oodles of caps) and has been rather unreasonably overlooked for far, far too long.
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Old 20-12-2006, 05:02 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "LOL. I agree that Rana's well and..."
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but he's still significantly short of 30.. and as a bowler who gets results through guile... .
Well he's 29 in February and I think it is fair to say that we really won't see anything much better from him than what we've already seen. There really is no signficant potential there as you say he is moving into his 'prime' and really struggling to get a regular test spot.
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Old 20-12-2006, 05:10 PM in reply to Milo's post starting "Well he's 29 in February and I think it..."
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This is good timing: a new article on the very topic - see Naved-ul-Hasan keen to cement Test spot.

ps. I can't believe that Rana, with 400 1st class wickets at 22.70, has just 8 Test caps to his name... whilst Mohammad "what's line and length" Sami has 28!

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Old 20-12-2006, 05:23 PM in reply to gibbs_fan's post starting "Are you serious Ern. I agree with some..."
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Ern with all due respect, I think that my team will kick your teams a**
Come on guys, pick your teams and then we can look for the common guys and pick a final XI. Maybe I forgot someone, let me know
Tell you how I arrived at part of my team Gibbs.
I picked on top form.

So Trescothick partnered Langer.

Collingwood has shown he can be a sticker - I could have picked others.

Simon Jones - fit and on form I reckon would be a world beater.

Sarwan a cricketer I have a lot of time for.

Lee is underestimated.

MacGill well who could deny that.

I could easily oick another 1X - Rachael excluded players like kalliss Flintoff Warne - so we are picking the best from the rest .

Gibbs would have been fair enough I agree, but the chasing pack are a much of a muchness IMO - What about Nel???
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Old 20-12-2006, 05:25 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "This is good timing: a new article on..."
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Sami is rubbish. Agreed.

But this is no different than Trescothick hoping that he can get his test place back (apart from the fact Marcus has at least shown he can cut it at Test level).

Naved is nothing exciting and really should move aside for the more hopeful Asif. Reminds me a lot of Asif Mujtaba. Scored a shed load of runs in first class cricket but couldn't make the step up.
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Old 20-12-2006, 08:25 PM in reply to Milo's post starting "Sami is rubbish. Agreed. But this is..."
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This is where one of the obvious differences lie between sub-continental sides and others........Man of the Match awards ? How about bo*&^x ? Man of the Match awards aren't the be all and end all
I haven't said they were mate. I just feel that as a measure of a player's influence on a match, taken over the length of a career they are a reasonably useful guide, in particular if one considers MoMs in winning causes.
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He will most likely pick a side consisting of all Pakistani's.
Not sure what gave you that impression, completely unwarranted IMHO. In this very thread I have been arguing against the inclusion of Inzi in a 'best of the rest' World XI - which would mean that my 'best of the rest' World XI will not have a single Pakistani batsman.
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Well he's 29 in February
If one believes the official age that is; he does look a lot older though.
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I think it is fair to say that we really won't see anything much better from him than what we've already seen.
I agree completely. I am a great admirer of Rana and have been for a long time; his commitment, enthusiasm, work ethic, cricket brain and guile is a treat to watch. However, he has reached his potential as a bowler and is not really a long term or even a medium term option at the Test level.
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