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| World NEXT best: leaving aside the blatently obvious. World XIs have rarely been of much interest in recent years: familar names have dominated every list for far, far too long. The same might be true today. What's always struck me as more interesting are "best of the rest" lists. How about we leave out the ICC top 10 batsmen and ICC top ten bowlers in world cricket... and then look at who is left: omit the following... Code: 1 R.T. Ponting AUS 2 Mohammad Yousuf PAK 3 K.P. Pietersen ENG 4 R. Dravid IND 5 K.C. Sangakkara SL 6 M.E.K. Hussey AUS 7 B.C. Lara WI 8 J.H. Kallis SA 9 Younis Khan PAK 10 M.L. Hayden AUS 1 M. Muralidaran SL 2 M. Ntini SA 3 G.D. McGrath AUS 4 S.K. Warne AUS 5 A. Kumble IND 6 M.J. Hoggard ENG 7 S.E. Bond NZ 8 A. Flintoff ENG 9 Shoaib Akhtar PAK 10 S.M. Pollock SA Fleming, Cook / Strauss / Langer / Gayle, Bell, Jayawardene, Inzi, Clarke, Gilchrist, Clark, Kaneria / MacGill / Vettori, Collymore and one other seamer from a huge list of also-rans. Last edited by Rachael : 19-12-2006 at 10:39 PM. |
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| It is disgusting that the people who have posted have forgotten Mr Cook of England. I must say that Mr Cook will be the future England captain who will personally make the Australians suffer like they have done to us over the last 15 or so years. Within the next 15 years Mr Cook will become an England legend and will break all records in terms of appearances and run-scoring, remember I told you so. |
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| Asif would be my instinct as the "one other"... but that would be pretty speculative. Asif looks good.. but no more so than Pathan did when he first burst onto the scene... |
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Irfan Pathan had an excellent start to his career but despite that, in his first six Tests managed 18 wickets, at an average of 39 and a SR of 78!! And you say they had similar starts?! Asif has also been excellent in ODIs and in fact, has looked a class apart from everyone on the field whenever he has the ball in his hand - one actually expects something to happen everytime he comes on to bowl, regardless of the conditions. And you have included Stuart Clark, presumably as the "wild card" or "the joke selection" - why not Stuart Broad instead? They are both equally new and untested, and are both called Stuart, which seems to be your key selection criterion!
__________________ A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes Mark Twain Last edited by Maranello : 20-12-2006 at 09:27 AM. |
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| No spot for the Tiger, Shivnarine Chanderpaul?? |
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| To be fair Maranello, Stuart Clarke has been doing well not just in this Ashes series (where he is leading wicket taker so far) but prior to this he had a good tour to South Africa as well, where he replaced McGrath (who missed the series to be with his wife) and was the Player of the Series with 20 wickets at 15 (including 9 wickets on debut!)! And in a total of 7 tests so far he has 37 wickets at an average of 18 conceeding just 2.5 runs an over! You're entitled to your opinions of course, and you can well think of Umar Gul, a younger man, with slightly more number of tests, and less support from others in his side then Clark has in his Australian side, as a more promising option for the long term, but we should not discredit Clarke all the same. He has been phenomenal for Australia since he came in the frame, and clearly has had more impact then some (or most) of the names you have mentioned. |
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| Fair enough Z - but the point remains that Clark has hardly set the world on fire in his last three tests - I would have expected more from someone who is allegedly a near certainty for this XI! A pace bowler having a good game or two in South Africa is hardly that unusual - just ask young Sreesaanth! Or even Charl Langevedlt. Clark may have potential and may be the next best thing, but I would say the same about Asif, Gul and Taylor - all of whom are much younger and thus much more exciting.
__________________ A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes Mark Twain |
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Trecothick. There is absolutely no way that Tresco can make the team. Surely Gayle or Sehwag are far better options. On what basis are you selecting. It seems like you are selecting on past reputations. If this is the case, then even Gibbs and Jayasuriya come in before Tresco. Collingwood. Are you serious. So is Collingwood better than Inzi, Chanderpaul, Laxman, Tendulkar and Jayawardene. I would even pick Bell and Cook ahead of him. Sarwan. Debatable. He has shown huge potential but he is very inconsistent. I would prefer to go with one of the players that I have mentioned above. As for the bowlers, I dont think that any of them would make my team. Lee. overated, never bowls match winning spells (except against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe). I would rather go for Asif, Taylor, or even Akhtar or Bond (if you really want extra pace). Simon (one series wonder) Jones. Firstly Ern I dont think that he will be fit to play Collymore. Good, but nothing more. IMO he does not take enough wickets but he does bowl fairly consistently. MacGill. This is a tough one because I rate MacGill but unfortunately we do not see him bowl very oftenoutside of Australia. I would have to lean slightly in favour of Singh or Vettori. I do not know what Rachael wants us to pick the team on (current form or overall consistency). Ern, your team is a combination and even includes "one series wonders" who dont fall into any categories. I will pick my team based on consistency especially recently 1)Gayle 2)Langer 3)Cook/ Laxman (A see Cook as a great potential, so I lean in his favour) 4)Tendulkar/ Chanderpaul(tough one because Chanderpaul is such a fighter and every team needs one. but then again Tendulkar is plain genius.) 5)Jayawardene 6)Inzi 7)Gilchrist 8)Vettori/ MacGill 9)Taylor 10)Asif 11)Bond Ern with all due respect, I think that my team will kick your teams a** Come on guys, pick your teams and then we can look for the common guys and pick a final XI. Maybe I forgot someone, let me know Edit: If I allowed my biased opinions in, I would pick Gibbs to open instead of Gayle |
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