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Old 28-12-2006, 05:47 PM in reply to Colourful Chaddi's post starting "ROFLMAO, to say Symonds has no talent..."
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Yes, Symonds is unlikely to finish having a Test average of 50 with the bat, and I am sure Australia will find a better batsman then him to replace in the middle order but to say he has no talent what so ever is foolish.
And introducing: "Rachael de Tyne."
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Old 28-12-2006, 05:49 PM in reply to Oliver's post starting "And introducing: "Rachael de..."
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And introducing: "Rachael de Tyne."
What do you mean Oliver?
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Old 28-12-2006, 06:20 PM in reply to mudney's post starting "Didn't Symonds just score 155 the other..."
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Didn't Symonds just score 155 the other day or am I missing something?
Yes but his stats before this innings pointed to him being replaced - and pronto.
I think Symonds may have bought some time, he is only in the side according to experts because Australia are hoping he will be an all rounder of World class.

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Old 28-12-2006, 06:31 PM in reply to mudney's post starting "Didn't Symonds just score 155 the other..."
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Didn't Symonds just score 155 the other day or am I missing something?
Did you not watch / listen / read about it? I did a mix of all three... and can assure you that the spectacle was acutely painful, like watching Eddie the Eagle ski-jumping but without the same fun factor.

The following comes from the cricinfo text commentary....
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27.3	Harmison to Symonds, no run, oh yes. Symonds beaten all ends up and left groping at air. Mind you, his footwork was almost completely non existent

30.2	Mahmood to Symonds, no run, and again it swings away from Symonds who aims a massive swish as if this was the final over of a Twenty20 thrash

30.5	Mahmood to Symonds, no run, Symonds finally gets his mind set about what to do and he leaves the ball outside the off stump

31.2	Harmison to Symonds, no run, Symonds spars at the ball and edges it a yard short of first and second slip. This is painful and those who have argued Symonds is not a Test player have more ammunition than the US army so far

31.4	Harmison to Symonds, 1 run, loud - and possibly sarcastic - cheers as Symonds turns the ball to leg to get off the mark

33.1	Harmison to Symonds, no run, angled into Symonds who gets in something of a muddle and the ball plops into the off side

33.4	Harmison to Symonds, no run, this beats Symonds, who has just got outside the line, and it hits him high on the right thigh and dribbles into the slips

34.4	Mahmood to Symonds, no run, Symonds turns square to get everything behind that

34.5	Mahmood to Symonds, no run, full,swinging into the right hander and Symonds jabs down and keeps it out, but again without any real conviction

37.6	Harmison to Symonds, FOUR, ooh, streaky from Symonds, flashing hard at this outside the off stump and it flies past gully for four. To his credit, he played that deliberately

39.2	Harmison to Symonds, 1 run, short, rising on Symonds who refuses to hook - there's a man out there, mind - and he paddles it in front of square, rather awkwardly

42.1	Hoggard to Symonds, 3 runs, bash! Bit of horticulture in that stroke, scything it through extra cover with ugly power

43.1	Harmison to Symonds, no run, classic Symonds; it be short, it be wide and Symonds tried to carve it into the sea. He would've succeeded, too, had it hit it...
Most of the bowling was pretty poor.. and the captaincy was dire, with men wasted in the deep instead of crowding the bat... but this one over from Hoggard warrants highlighing....
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44.1	Hoggard to Symonds, no run, crash! A thumping, monotone drive to mid off

44.2	Hoggard to Symonds, no run, ah well bowled! Excellent cricket all round in fact, Hoggard sending down a slower ball which ended up as a full toss. Symonds spotted it rather late and could only defend it off the back foot 

44.3	Hoggard to Symonds, no run, squirted into the gully 

44.4	Hoggard to Symonds, no run, on leg stump and Symonds rather misses out here, hitting it too straight and finding mid on 

44.5	Hoggard to Symonds, 1 run, swinging into Symonds before cutting away, just a touch, and he streakily drives this on the up, with one hand off the bat, just past a diving extra cover; Bell ending on his knees
Even the balls that went for four were unspeakably ugly shots: these two in particular had me wincing as I watched....
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46.2	Hoggard to Symonds, FOUR, smashed on the up past Bell at short extra cover. Smashed is the only way to describe it

48.2	Hoggard to Symonds, FOUR, shot, Symonds! This is ugly for England. Symonds using plenty of bottom hand to spoon it over midwicket for a powerful, resounding four
Boycott's comment was something to the effect that the England players should go hide in the dressingroom in embarrassment if they let this clot get to 50.

Sadly... the batting was not much better after he passed 50 and then 100 and then 150... and even towards the end of the innings, Boycott was noting that Symonds didn't seem to have any idea about using his crease for back foor shots.

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Old 28-12-2006, 06:35 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Did you not watch / listen / read about..."
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After the first two shots from Symonds, I thought England could end up with a first inings lead - that could have been so had not Hayden gone and read the riot act to him.
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Old 28-12-2006, 06:40 PM in reply to Ernest's post starting "Yes but his stats before this innings..."
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Symonds is lucky he had the chance to score his ton.
Brad Hodge got dumped like a hot potato after one bad dismissal with an average of 58, yet Symonds got another chance with an avarage of 19.
I will give him credit for his great ton made when we needed it,but one innings does not make you a test player.
Some very ordinary batters have made test hundreds.(Gillespie,Agarka and Symcox to name three.)
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Old 28-12-2006, 06:43 PM in reply to KennyG's post starting "Symonds is lucky he had the chance to..."
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one innings does not make you a test player [...] Some very ordinary batters have made test hundreds.(Gillespie,Agarka and Symcox to name three.)
Sometime in the early hours I heard Boycott reel off a string of names of players who scored hundreds and yet never convinced at Test level.
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Old 28-12-2006, 07:38 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Sometime in the early hours I heard..."
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I bet Hick was in that lot. Ramps too possibly.
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Old 28-12-2006, 07:38 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Sometime in the early hours I heard..."
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Yeah I heard he had a very tough start against our bowlers but he scored 155. I wish our batsmen could play crap and get 155, instead of the 20's and 30's they do get. To call someone who just scored 155 the worst number 6 in ashes history i'm afraid is very wrong. You watch, now he's got the 100 he will probably turn into a very good player who is confident in himself
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Old 28-12-2006, 07:41 PM in reply to Richie Benauds Love Child's post starting "I bet Hick was in that lot. Ramps too..."
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I bet Hick was in that lot. Ramps too possibly.
Nope. Mostly far less well known players.... batsmen who managed only a handful of Tests.
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