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| View Poll Results: Who deserved Man of the Series | |||
| Ricky Ponting | | 10 | 45.45% |
| Michael Hussey | | 1 | 4.55% |
| Shane Warne | | 0 | 0% |
| Glenn McGrath | | 1 | 4.55% |
| Stuart Clark | | 10 | 45.45% |
| Michael Clarke | | 0 | 0% |
| Andrew Flintoff | | 0 | 0% |
| Kevin Pietersen | | 0 | 0% |
| Paul Collingwood | | 0 | 0% |
| Matthew Hoggard | | 0 | 0% |
| Matthew Hayden | | 0 | 0% |
| Ian Bell | | 0 | 0% |
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| BOWLING Best Australian bowler: This man in my opinion was the player of the series he was the leading wicket taker with 26 wickets at 17.03 was surprising to everyone no one was expecting him to repeat what he did in South Africa. It was a toss up between Clark and the young Mitchell Johnson but they went with the experienced Clark who just bowl like McGrath did when he was 30. Clark - 3/21 off 14, 4/72 off 24.1, 3/75 off 34, 1/22 off 13, 3/49 off 15.1, 2/56 off 25, 3/62 off 24, 2/29 off 12, 2/27 off 17 & 3/30 off 16. Best English bowler: The million dollar question why play Giles instead of Panesar, there is nothing you can hate about this man especially his celebrations when he gets a wicket. The main difference between Panesar and Giles is that when Panesar gets a wicket he runs and jumps with joy, Giles just stands there with a blank look of shock "oh my god he got himself out". Panesar bowled very well he played only three tests took 10 wickets at 37.90 he did not take the most wickets or have the best average but he was the most dangerous SR of 53.7 considering that Hoggard’s 65.0, Flintoff 74.7, Mahmood 61.6, Harmison 102.1, Anderson 112.0 and Giles 164.0. Panesar would have done a lot better if he or Flintoff could set an attacking field for Monty in Melbourne. Best Aussie individual bowling performance: McGrath's 6/50 at Brisbane in the first test getting the wickets of Strauss, Cook, Pietersen, Jones, Giles and Harmison. This bowling performance mentally broke England to get 600+ smashed against you in the first innings of the first test then get knocked over for 157. After all the talk about smash McGrath and for McGrath to come out after naming Cook, Strauss and Pietersen as bunnies and getting them all out. I think McGrath named the whole side as his bunnies, McGrath always names the two openers of a side to be his bunnies, because he is going to bowl to them with the new ball and either the captain or there best batsman. Very predictable Best English individual bowling performance: No one can go past Matthew Hoggard his 7/109 he swung the ball and pitched it full and when he ball got old he hit the deck hard on a good length. He got the wickets of Hayden, Ponting, Martyn, Hussey, Clarke, Warne and Clark. Its not like just cleaned up the tail he got nearly the whole top order out by himself. One of the best bowling performances I have seen in a long time. Considering he was the only bowler who was able to get wickets on that deck. Flintoff 1/82, Harmison 0/96, Anderson 1/85, Giles 1/103 & Pietersen 0/32. Worst Aussie bowler: It's a hard thing to choose because all the Australian's bowled well the only one the struggled during the series was Brett Lee at the start but he rapidly improved during the second half. Lee - 20 wickets at 33.20 was the worst of the bowlers considering the rest of the bowlers bowled so well. Clark 26 wickets at 17.03, McGrath 21 wickets at 23.90 & Warne 23 wickets at 30.34. Worst English bowler: It’s a toss up between two bowlers Giles and Anderson. Anderson got more chances to improve on his earlier horrible performances where Giles did not get the opportunity. Harmison no doubt has the worst ball of the series which haunted him in the first two tests. The media destroyed him but he came back and bowled some good spells. Tie between Giles 3 wickets at 87.33, Anderson 5 wickets at 82.60. Best Aussie team bowling performance: England's 2nd innings in Adelaide which was one of the most remarkable matches in test cricket history. The matched looked to be a draw or an England win and Australia were able to steam role England for 129. Warne took 4/49 off 32, McGrath took 2/15 off 10, Lee took 2/35 off 18 and Clark took 1/22 off 13 overs. The rest of the match is modern history a great moment for Australian cricket. Best England team bowling performance: There were not many good team performances with the ball during the series but the only time they got Australia out for under 300 was the first innings at Perth they knocked over the Aussies for 244. Harmison was always going to take wickets at Perth with the bounce and took 4/48 off 20 overs and he was brilliant with the wickets of Ponting & Clark then finished off the tail getting Clark and McGrath. It was also Panesar’s first game in Australia and was very good taking 5/92 off 24, bowling Langer, getting Symonds and Warne caught behind, getting the dangerous Gilchirst out in front of his home crowd and trapping Brett Lee LBW. The other wicket went to Hoggard who get Matthew Hayden out caught behind. It was all pressure that caused England to get Australia out like they did. Two bowlers that bowled in a Partnership was what England missed in the series. MEMORABLE MOMENTS
__________________ Bill Ponsford - The only one who could play in Bradman’s company and make it a duet. |
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| In term sof best and worst English bowling performances... putting Panesar up on a pedestal makes no sense: he has huge potential... and I've followed his rise with enthusiasm since well before he burtst onto the International scene... and it's encouraging to see him emerge from an Ashes series with a bit of credit... but he started the tour so badly that Giles was regarded as the better bowler (forget the batting, Giles was outbowling him) and the guy's bowling at Perth was by some margin the worst (though most handsomely rewarded) of his short career. The kid has a lot to learn, and still lacks the experience to bowl to the level some seem to think he's already managing... a fact recognised by Flintoff, whose negative field placings to allow Symonds off the hook were diabolical... but perhaps based on a realistic assessment of Panesar's current ability to bowl to a plan. In terms of best England bowler... a jaded Flintoff (nowhere near his best) topped Panesar... and Hoggard comfortably eclipsed both (being the only only English bowler on tour who looked consistently on his game and capable of bowling to a plan. The worst? Mahmood by miles: I've not seen a bowler inspire less confidence in his captain and look less capable of bowling to a plan since Devon Malcolm had Boycott spitting feathers for undoing all the great work of Gus Fraser. Anderson, by comparison, was pretty decent: it's a shame Anderson's best spells came in tour matches rather than Test matches... but he at no point looked as incapable of following instructions as Mahmood. Giles was out of sorts, but (in near impossible circumstances created by a mis-firing seam attack) still bowled better than both Mahmood and Anderson: a defensive finger spinner is there to help the seamers maintain pressure.. but with Harmison doing his best to get the series known as "shoddyline" and Anderson struggling... there was simply no pressure to maintain - and Giles stood no chance. ps. we all admire those bowlers who can thrive when the other bowlers are NOT helping build the pressure... as Murali does, for example... but that's hardly the be all and end all of bowling: even the best finger spinners and medium pace bowlers generally need to be part of a fully functioning bowling unit to really shine... even an all time great like Laker (or Bedser for that matter) would have struggled with Harmison and Anderson gifting the initiative as they did at the Gabba! |
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| I've already discussed Panesar's bowling at Perth with you. You seem determined to see the worst in that performance. I can assure you, he did not bowl as badly as Vic Marks, Geoff Boycott or which other old goat you've been listening to had to say. Was he a world beater? No. Did he bowl well. Yes. As for Anderson, I thought he bowled pretty well in Sydney - especially in his first 10 overs. In fact, in those overs, I thought he bowled the best he'd done in a test match in a very long time. Unfortunately, he was absolutely awful before that. |
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| Ponting nudges Warne for me. Warne had a decent series with the ball but not his best (averaging 30ish), and although he did tremendously well with the bat and sentimentality tugs at me, I have to say that Ponting has never had a better Ashes series with the bat (IMO, without recourse to statistics and based mainly on just watching him bat) and I've never seen him play so well. He's still lacking as a captain, but with the quality he has with the bat and in the field, the players he had and the performances they put in he didn't need to be the best of leaders. Bouncing back from 2005 to spearhead an Ashes reclaimation is highly admirable indeed. |
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| I thought his captaincy was brilliant. The big difference between Australia and England is that Ponting had great players with brilliant cricket brains as well as experience. Gilchrist, McGrath, Warne and Langer. England didnt have any.
__________________ Bill Ponsford - The only one who could play in Bradman’s company and make it a duet. |
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| Stuart Clark was robbed. The only number that really matters in cricket is 10.
__________________ " You don't want the truth,you can't handle the truth." |
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| Stuart Clark was robbed of man of the series he showed just how good a bowler he is and that Glenn McGrath wont be missed anywhere near as much as Warne |
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