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2007 Wisden Cricketers of the Year

They won't be announced until just before the publication of this year's Wisden on March 26, but I'm wondering: who is worthy of the allocade? The selection is based: "primarily but not exclusively, on the player's influence on the previous English season", and it can only be awarded once to each player.

The obvious candidates are:
Monty Panesar
Stuart Clark (surely?)
Alistair Cook
Mohammad Yousef
Younis Khan

...but I have my doubts, as I've been proven wrong on many an occasion. Is there anyone else who is worthy of selection?
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Old 26-02-2007, 08:20 PM in reply to adamberry's post "2007 Wisden Cricketers of the Year"
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Is there anyone else who is worthy of selection?
In a word no!

Pretty much covers it I reckon..............

I'd say Monty is a cert with Alistair Cook a close second after missing out last year
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Old 26-02-2007, 08:24 PM in reply to adamberry's post "2007 Wisden Cricketers of the Year"
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No Murali? Or Jayawardene?

Also, I'm not sure Clark achieved much in the English season. But then maybe I am wrong. :-)
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My only doubt is whether Stuart Clark made enough of an impact - granted he did make one, just did he leave it too late to be included? Then again, there aren't exactly a lot of people who are worthy of the award that haven't already got it!

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No Murali? Or Jayawardene?
Murali won it in 1999, and thus isn't eligible. Jayawardene is though, and he has had a good year. His triple century alone surely merits his inclusion.
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Old 26-02-2007, 09:07 PM in reply to adamberry's post starting "My only doubt is whether Stuart Clark..."
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IMO, Mohammed Yusouf would surey be a frontrunner.
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Old 26-02-2007, 11:22 PM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "IMO, Mohammed Yusouf would surey be a..."
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What about Michael Hussey?
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Damn, there's always an obvious one that slips my mind...

At least I know I'm forgetting the Ashes now! Quite right, Hussey is worthy of the award, not only for his performance in the Ashes but his all-year-round consistancy. In fact, I reckon he's a front-runner for Wisden's Leading Cricketer in the World award.
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I think Yousuf should be, so Ponting, Lee, Flintoff, Hoggard and Warne are not able to be selected again, is that right?
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I didn't follow the 2006 Championship in any great detail, so I could be wrong. But I don't think either Hussey and Clarke did much during the English summer so neither of them deserves to be one of the chosen five. Similarly, Jawardene's triple hundred was not during the English cricket summer, so is mostly irrelevant.

Adam - the criteria, as you quote, is derived "primarily but not exclusively, from the player's influence on the previous English season". The English season only includes performances in the county championship or performances in any of the seven Tests played in England against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
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Old 27-02-2007, 09:15 AM in reply to Maranello's post starting "I didn't follow the 2006 Championship..."
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Adam - the criteria, as you quote, is derived "primarily but not exclusively, from the player's influence on the previous English season". The English season only includes performances in the county championship or performances in any of the seven Tests played in England against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
There's really only one batting candidate from the 1st class lists... though a number of England Test batsmen and at least one opposition Test batsman stand out:
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Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St Team

MR Ramprakash        15   24   2  2278  301* 103.54  60.79   8  9   13  - SURREY 
AN Cook              13   23   5  1159  132   64.38  54.95   4  6   15  - MCC/ESSEX/ENG-A/ENG
IR Bell               9   16   4   713  119   59.41  55.44   3  4    4  - WARWICKS/ENG-A/ENG
KP Pietersen          7   12   0   707  158   58.91  78.29   3  1    7  - ENG

Mohammad Yousuf       5    9   1   666  202   83.25  61.26   3  -    1  - PAK
On the bowling front we again have a clear frontrunner... though one England player also figures prominently in the wickets-tally and one opponent stands out in the averages:
Code:
Name                Mat    O      M     R   W    Ave  Best   5 10    SR  Econ Team

Mushtaq Ahmed        15  623.5  118  2031  102  19.91  9-48  11  4  36.6  3.25 SUSSEX

MS Panesar           17  759    195  2029   71  28.57  5-32   6  1  64.1  2.67 MCC/NORTHANTS/ENG

M Muralitharan        4  189.2   45   507   28  18.10  8-70   2  2  40.5  2.67 SL
and the outstanding performances of the Test season (vs. Sri Lanka and vs. Pakistan) was as follows:
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Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St

IR Bell               4    7   3   375  119   93.75  59.90   3  -    2  -

KP Pietersen          3    5   0   360  158   72.00  77.92   2  -    4  -
KP Pietersen          4    7   0   347  135   49.57  78.68   1  1    3  -

Mohammad Yousuf       4    7   0   631  202   90.14  63.99   3  -    1  -

Name                Mat    O      M     R   W    Ave  Best   5 10    SR  Econ

M Muralitharan        3  146.2   36   405   24  16.87  8-70   2  2  36.5  2.76

SJ Harmison           4  151.3   29   542   20  27.10  6-19   2  1  45.4  3.57

MS Panesar            3   99.1   32   210   10  21.00  5-78   1  -  59.5  2.11
MS Panesar            4  184.1   40   515   17  30.29  5-72   1  -  65.0  2.79
If the Ashes are also included then add the following:
Code:
Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St

MEK Hussey            5    7   2   458  103   91.60  50.71   1  4    5  -
RT Ponting            5    8   1   576  196   82.28  60.44   2  2    4  -
MJ Clarke             5    7   2   389  135*  77.80  63.04   2  1    2  -

KP Pietersen          5   10   1   490  158   54.44  48.46   1  3    3  -

Name                Mat    O      M     R   W    Ave  Best   5 10    SR  Econ

SR Clark              5  194.2   53   443   26  17.03  4-72   -  -  44.8  2.27
GD McGrath            5  209.1   65   502   21  23.90  6-50   1  -  59.7  2.40
SK Warne              5  241.2   43   698   23  30.34  5-39   1  -  62.9  2.89
Actually... Warne had a damn good domestic season as well...
Code:
Name                Mat    O      M     R   W    Ave  Best   5 10    SR  Econ Team

SK Warne             13  523.4   91  1571   58  27.08  7-99   4  -  54.1  3.00 HANTS
I suspect Warne's had the thing before so ain't eligible... but he, for me, would be the obvious candidate.

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