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Originally Posted by Ninjaman His supposed lack of tactical nous is grossly exaggerated and patently untrue. Whilst there may be more tactically aware captains, he devised the idea of what the West Indies of the late 70s/early 80s would be. It was he he put in place the blueprint, highlighted the bowlers needed and used them to great effect. It was he who realised the need for fitness development and made them into not just the best bowling outfit but the fittest and most athletic unit and the best fielding side too. |
I dont think his tactical nous was ever tested.....
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Originally Posted by Ninjaman He wielded huge influence and respect and punished any indiscretions in the team (and there were many!).
When they went out on the field, like Worrell before him, he united the players from the federation of countries that form the WI into an effective fighting unit they defeated all comers. |
Couldnt argue there.
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Originally Posted by Ninjaman Clive Lloyd did it and built the greatest side EVER. |
Again, couldnt argue there.
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Originally Posted by Ninjaman It was always funny reading journalists, nearly always English, who were "purists" who would moan and whinge that Lloyd built a side that used 4 fast bowlers to destroy his opposition. They complained that he never had any need for a spinner as if having a spinner is a selectorial must. They never moaned when the treatment had been dished out to WI in the early part of Lloyd's reign. After that Aussie mauling he vowed that from then on the WI would never suffer like that again on his watch. |
I've never complained about that Windies side, infact IMO they were the greatest side ever and a team i still like to watch.
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Originally Posted by Ninjaman When you sow the seed and nurture the development of a team and then lead (from the front) and carry them to the pinnacle of the game all time, then you are great. |
His off the field work and discipline he instilled into that team does mark him down as one of the greats, still not sure about his on field tactical nous though, i mean all he had to decide was who to thow the ball to next; Marshall, Holding, Croft, Garner, Roberts.....
Still , a good post there Ninjaman and so far you have made the most convincing argument as to why your choice is the greatest.