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Michael Holding on great batsmen he bowled at...
Today's Telegraph carried an interview with Michael Holding.

One question was about the best batsmen he bowled at...
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It would depend a lot on the conditions. There were so many good players: Geoffrey Boycott, Sunil Gavaskar, the two Chappell brothers Greg and Ian, and it took different circumstances to get them out. On a flat pitch, Gavaskar seemed immoveable. Ian Chappell in an aggressive mood could embarrass a bowler. But the great technically correct players were Boycott, Majid Khan, Zaheer Abbas the more I think about it, the more batsmen come to mind.
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Old 05-06-2007, 03:41 PM in reply to Rachael's post "Michael Holding on great batsmen he..."
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The most successful batsmen during Holding's era were Javed Miandad, Allan Border and, of course, Sunil Gavaskar. It would be interesting to know their performances against the West Indies in matches where Holding played.
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Holding's top five bunnies
  1. Gavaskar 11
  2. Kim Hughes, Gaekwad 8
  3. Gooch 7
  4. Boycott, Shastri, Border 6
  5. Willey, Knott, Botham, Vengsarkar, Rod Marsh, Gower, Botham 5
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The most successful batsmen during Holding's era were Javed Miandad...
It does not seem like Michael Holding ever played any tests against Pakistan. Interesting.
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It does not seem like Michael Holding ever played any tests against Pakistan. Interesting.
He still bowled against these players in county cricket though. Otherwise, he would never be able to talk about Zaheer Abbas.

Interestingly, Lillee never rated Gavaskar either. He said he very rarely scored runs when he bowled to him. Marshall also thought that Zaheer Abbas was a rubbish batsman, actually scared of short pitched bowling. In fact, Zaheer very rarely scored runs against top quality fast bowling.
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He still bowled against these players in county cricket though. Otherwise, he would never be able to talk about Zaheer Abbas.
I believe he played 19 ODI's vs Pakistan. And he got Miandad once. Never got Abbas though...in an ODI I mean.
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Interestingly, Lillee never rated Gavaskar either. He said he very rarely scored runs when he bowled to him.
That opinion mught have something to do with the bust-up that the two men had when Gavaskar petulantly threatened to walk out taking the team with him after he was given out lbw to Lillee during the Test at the MCG in the 1980-1 series. Gavaskar was undoubtedly a great batsman, but had an attitude problem as big as Mount Everest and ended up his own worst enemy.
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Marshall also thought that Zaheer Abbas was a rubbish batsman, actually scared of short pitched bowling. In fact, Zaheer very rarely scored runs against top quality fast bowling.
I was thinking something similar - I'm sure somewhere I read a quote along those same lines.

Funnily enough, Dennis Lillee rated David Gower as one of the best batsman he ever bowled to. Yet he never seems to spoken when batsman from that era are discussed.
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I was thinking something similar - I'm sure somewhere I read a quote along those same lines.

Funnily enough, Dennis Lillee rated David Gower as one of the best batsman he ever bowled to.
Gower was a much better batsman than his relatively modest record suggests. I think he was a bit too languid in his approach and got out needlessly at times.
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Gower was a much better batsman than his relatively modest record suggests. I think he was a bit too languid in his approach and got out needlessly at times.
I agree, he was an excellant bat who perhaps at times was his own worst enemy.

It says something when the 2 best quick bowlers of the time (Lillee and Marshall - IMO the 2 best of all time) rated him amongst the best they had bowled against.
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