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Old 23-07-2007, 11:40 AM in reply to Milo's post starting "Have you finally been convinced of..."
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Have you finally been convinced of Kevin Pietersen's ability and application now Rachael?
That'll never happen,we will however get a thesis on how Ramprakash would have coped.
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Old 23-07-2007, 12:43 PM in reply to Milo's post starting "Have you finally been convinced of..."
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Even under testing conditions, he showed (once again, even as he did on debut) he was the best equipped player in England's team to succeed.
I don't think these are that testing conditions Milo - Pietersen has just proved that he is a cut above the likes of Bell - Vaughan and even Collingwood.
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Old 23-07-2007, 12:46 PM in reply to greg's post starting "That'll never happen,we will however..."
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I've not been critical of Pietersen for years: Notts Exile convinced me to at least give him the benefit of the doubt... and I reckon that was probably in the summer BEFORE his Test debut! The guy being critical of Pieterson was Vic Marks, who compared his technique against the moving ball extremely unfavourably with the exemplary approach of Boycott, Edrich and Atherton.
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Old 23-07-2007, 01:11 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "I've not been critical of Pietersen for..."
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Yet he went on to get a ton......

But thats all by the by. I hadnt been able to listen to cricket for ant long spells recently and when I had, when it was england bowling it was too short and too wayward. Listening on Saturday morning I had the pleasure of hearing how ganguly was sussed out then bowled by Anderson who pitched it up and was moving it this way and that but more importantly 5, sometimes 6 balls out of 6. Sidebottom (who didnt bowl as well Sunday it has to be said) also bowled well and the dismissal of Dhoni aside it was mainly stuff pitched up. Now, hoggard aside, would the 2005/2006 crew been able to do that ? Jones maybe but harmo and fred would have got too carried away with short stuff as we have been since 2005, and harmo would have been little threat if he did manage to get it on the track. I didnt think for a second this raw bunch of bowlers would have achieved much but they've all bowled very well.

Alot of this has been credited, based on nowt, to Donald. I actually think peter Moores, acounty man through and through, is more likely because the conditions are so typically english and demand a typically english seamer that I'm not sure donald would have been as well placed to advise.
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Old 23-07-2007, 01:14 PM in reply to Ernest's post starting "I don't think these are that testing..."
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Pietersen has just proved that he is a cup above the likes
Not just the England players, KP demonstrated he was better than Dravid, Ganguly and dare I say it - Tendulkar!!
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I take it you wrote this with your tongue firmly in cheek FF
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Not just the England players, KP demonstrated he was better than Dravid, Ganguly and dare I say it - Tendulkar!!
He didn't demonstrate anything of the sort - he just played an innings that was better than any other innings in this Test match - as you know, one innings does not prove or demonstrate anything about the relative merits of careers spanning 10 or 15 years!
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Old 23-07-2007, 04:57 PM in reply to Maranello's post starting "I take it you wrote this with your..."
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I thought after getting out cheaply in the recent ODIs, Pietersen was supposed to be fatigued.

Apparently, too much cricket.

Nice to see he is well rested now.

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Old 23-07-2007, 05:32 PM in reply to Ninjaman's post starting "I thought after getting out cheaply in..."
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Just because he was doing some daft sponser thing when he was quoted doesnt mean he ist right. England play too many matches. Between the 2006/07 Ashes and the next Ashes series, the aussies play 6 tests I think. We play 21.
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Old 23-07-2007, 07:47 PM in reply to Richie Benauds Love Child's post starting "Just because he was doing some daft..."
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RBLC, that was not the point I was making.

Maybe it was too subtle or my missed you. But let it lie....

However, I highly doubt that Australia will play only 6 Test matches before they play England in the Ashes again.

I think they play every other team in a Test before they play England again.

I stand to be corrected, of course
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Old 23-07-2007, 08:32 PM in reply to greg's post starting "That'll never happen,we will however..."
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.....how Ramprakash would have coped.

And failed......

Pieterson, plays spin and swing fine, because he does get a long way forward and gets to the pitch of the ball.

Just because his technique may not be so called "orthodox" you cant say he cant play the moving ball.

E.g

Ramps has a very good orthodox technique but averages a pathertic 27 in tests.

Pieterson has an unorthodox technique and averages 50 odd......

So whos the best player then??
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